[Summit] I fell today

Sun Jan 25 16:33:25 UTC 2009

In NYC, where I live part of the time, building owners and businesses  
are ticketed for failing to shovel and for litter on sidewalks. As a  
result, pedestrians encounter very few icy sidewalks, at least in my  
neighborhood. I believe the sidewalk cleaning regulations are enforced  
by the same cops that write parking tickets. Enforcement only goes up  
in economic downturns, since these fines raise revenue for the city.

Karen

On Jan 25, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Theresa Mathiesen wrote:

> I agree with Bob Trudeau.  If there's an ordinance, it should be  
> enforced.
>
> For what it's worth, in Arlington, Massachusetts, where our son James
> lives, the police give citations to homeowners/properties that aren't
> properly shoveled.  James says that this is because Arlington wants
> its children to get to school safely.
>
> -- Elva Mathiesen
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Bob Trudeau <bobtrudeau at cox.net>  
> wrote:
>> I couldn't agree with you more, on all counts.
>>
>> Bob Trudeau
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2009, at 9:13 AM, <flutesy at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Besides its being a nice and civic-minded thing to do for the  
>>> community,
>>> isn't there an ordinance that merchants and residents MUST shovel?   
>>> Aren't
>>> we all legally responsible  for clearing the sidewalk in front of our
>>> property? And if someone slips and hurts himself on our property,  
>>> can't we
>>> be sued?
>>>
>>> I think we need to ge tougher about this.  And why doesn't the city
>>> enforce the ordinance, if there is one?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Phyl
>>> ---- "Thomas A. Schmeling" <tschmeling at ric.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Art, Elianna and all,
>>>>
>>>> I've recently become the liaison from the Board of Directors of the
>>>> Summit Neighborhood Association to the new Hope Street Merchant's
>>>> Association.  I raised the issue of snow-clearing at their last
>>>> meeting and they were very understanding. I think they are looking
>>>> for solutions to this problem, and believe that they will work  
>>>> toward
>>>> convincing all the merchants that keeping the sidewalks open and  
>>>> safe
>>>> is important for our community.
>>>>
>>>> I forwarded Elianna's message to Nanda Head, the new HSMA President,
>>>> though I think she's already on this list.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> Thomas A. Schmeling
>>>> Associate Professor-Political Science
>>>> Rhode Island College
>>>> "All my favorite songs have had lyrics I didn't quite understand" -
>>>> Brian Eno
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Art Norwalk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't this be a nice issue for the newly revived Hope Street
>>>>> Merchants Association to address!
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat, are you listening?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Art
>>>>>
>>>>> At 06:29 PM 1/22/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Job Lot in Pawtucket was out of those "spikes add ons" in
>>>>>> December, but I got some at the Seekonk store off 195, and they
>>>>>> really help. I use them a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But one day last week when I wasn't wearing them I fell walking on
>>>>>> the sidewalk on Blackstone Boulevard. I still hurt in one place. I
>>>>>> hope everyone else is okay.  Falling can be serious, especially
>>>>>> for older people.  Two years ago a friend of mine, who was not
>>>>>> "older", actually sustained a serious head injury from falling on
>>>>>> the ice; she needed a lot of physical therapy and was unable to
>>>>>> work for a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also- tried talking to Citizen's Bank last week and somehow they
>>>>>> have got it in their head that they only have to shovel in front
>>>>>> of their windows, and the side walk around the parking lot will
>>>>>> magically taken care of by the city???  Can some other folks on
>>>>>> this list try convincing them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My contribution to doing more and complaining less, is that I have
>>>>>> been occasionally shovelling a curb path through the plowwed up
>>>>>> piles at cross walks, besides on my own corner.  Before the last
>>>>>> freeze I did 10 corners, down towards CVS, both sides, although
>>>>>> some of the sidewalks weren't worth being able to get onto.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are a few multifamily rentals near me, which are absolutely
>>>>>> NEVER shoveled.  Is there any enforcement attached to thet law??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Elianna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Judith Schrier
>>>>>> <Judith_Schrier at brown.edu > wrote:
>>>>>> At 11:05 PM 1/21/2009, Phyl wrote:
>>>>>> I fell two weeks ago on a patch of ice on Rochambeau. I have taken
>>>>>> to wearing rubber slip-ons with
>>>>>> small spikes on the bottom which I slip over my shoes. It helps
>>>>>> and i haven't fallen but we shouldn't
>>>>>> have to put up with unsafe streets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, those rubber slip-ons are available for about $6 or $7
>>>>>> at Ocean State Job Lot.
>>>>>> They tend to be small, but they are quite effective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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