[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 65, Issue 22

Mon Aug 16 02:13:56 UTC 2010

I think it is a great idea to allow community gardening. I recently saw ground 
zero in NYC with a lovely garden for the community next to a kids play area and 
it made a wonderful enhancement. Arthur

Take good care of yourself and others, so we can take care of the rest. Our 
total future is really the long process of learning to be kind and growing 
together. King Arthur

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Lippitte Park Redux (Greg Gerritt)
  2. Re: Lippitte Park Redux (Jesse C. Polhemus)
  3. Large appliance repair (Don Jurkowitz)
  4. Re: Large appliance repair (Theresa Mathiesen)
  5. Re: Large appliance repair (louise zuckerman)
  6. Re: Break-in Suspect Spotted on Lauriston (Theresa Mathiesen)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 06:28:12 -0400
From: Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
To: Fr Eng <ridotshaw at gmail.com>,    Summit Neighborhood
    <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Lippitte Park Redux
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The point of a community garden is to increase access to healthy food for
the entire community, improving our food security in the face of global
warming.  RI grows only 1% of its food, and is in desperate need of
increasing that as climate and transportation systems break down.  Parks are
exactly the right place for community gardens.  Greg gerritt

on 8/15/10 1:50 AM, Fr Eng at ridotshaw at gmail.com wrote:

> So after the trees are cut down, a new plan is in the works - with SNA
> leadership - to change Lippitt Park again.? This time, the idea is to fence
> off a good part of the park and only have certain people be able to use that
> part.
> 
> Recall that a few of us have been concerned with not only the fact that trees
> were cut down but SNA played a terrible leadership role in that.? We can no
> longer afford to live with a family in the east side but visit Lippitt often.?
> Some SNA folks have indicated an homest concern about the role it played -
> after all, SNA knew long before the public did that trees would be cut down.?
> There was no alarm raised.? In fact, SNA tried to sell the idea.? It wasn't
> until the community itself stepped in.? Then the tree cutting that SNA and the
> City said was necessary for the fountain project was stopped.
> 
> Thank you again for the thoughful comments from the SNA members who want to
> learn from this.? I believe Mr. Mike W. is a board member and seems to have
> the right leadership thoughts and abilities.? Other comments are noted below.
> 
> But the new plan is again intended to reshap our beloved park.? At least one
> half acre will be fenced off.? Now this will be called a community garden and
> certain people will be allowed to garden there.? Nice idea for them.? But was
> Lippett intended to be a farm??? Even if a small amount of area is fenced off,
> that's not right.? Many times, my family has enjoyed the freedom of running
> thoughout the areas with grass.? Why should be that be restricted?
> 
> Well, some people want to garden, that's why.? And it appears the SNA folks
> are part of this push.? And guess who's pushing the hardest.? That's right
> Jessie P.?? This is person who agreed that trees should be cut down.? Now it
> doesn't appear that he's an officer in the SNA.? He is the head of Save the
> Fountain.? But it's unclear who else is a member of that.? That doesn't stop
> Jessie P from telling the rest of us what to do.? He talks as if he's the only
> one with a right or brain to do it!!!
> 
> And the SNA group, while lucky to have Mr. Mike W, also has people who don't
> like opposition.? Paul S. told us to fuck off.? He brought the exchange right
> into the gutter.? That seems to be where some people in the SNA want to be if
> they don't get their way.
> 
> It's time for SNA to tell us all about plans to fence off Lippitt Park.?
> Either say it ain't so or bring these plans out into the open so people can at
> least particpate!
> 
> Shaw
> 
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jesse C. Polhemus" <rynemonn at yahoo.com>
To: Summit at sna.providence.ri.us, Fr Eng <ridotshaw at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Lippitte Park Redux
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Shaw,

I'll take this opportunity to remind you again that personal attacks and 
distorted facts are only costing you public support.  People will be more likely 
to take your side if you discuss issues, not the shadowy movements of a sinister 
cabal of organic gardeners.

Here are some facts:

* SNA has never advocated for the removal of a single tree
* At the very same meeting where tree removal was announced, SNA immediately 
scheduled a public meeting to discuss the issue
* The idea of community gardening in Lippitt Park was brought to the SNA Board 
by a private citizen who first approached the Parks Department
* SNA has not, to my knowledge, endorsed community gardening in Lippitt Park or 
anywhere else
* I am currently a member of the SNA Board of Directors

Speaking just for myself, I support community gardening, and I support community 
gardening in Lippitt Park.  Why not take this opportunity to have a cordial 
discussion about which activities belong in a public park and which ones don't?  

To me, it's pretty clear that a public park isn't meant to be an untouched 
preserve but a place where humans perform various activities in a natural 
setting.  Numerous people over the years have felt similarly, because they 
allowed a fountain and a playground to be built, music to be played, an arts 
market and a farmer's market to be held regularly, and countless other 
activities.  

I'd recommend that anyone who's interested look at the beautiful community park 
near the JCC on Sessions Street as an example.  Instead of taking away from the 
park it's part of, it absolutely enhances it.

- Jesse

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Don Jurkowitz <donjur1 at yahoo.com>
To: Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: [Summit] Large appliance repair
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I am looking for a reliable, knowledgeable appliance repair person (place?), for 

my refrigerator.  My freezer compartment is working fine but the refrigerator 
part is not working at all.  The refrigerator is not tremendously old (I think 
less than 8 years).  It is a Magic Chef.  Thanks for any suggestions.

Don J.

Don Jurkowitz
Chemistry Department
CCRI
donjur1 at yahoo.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:57:28 -0400
From: Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>
To: Don Jurkowitz <donjur1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: Re: [Summit] Large appliance repair
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I think the Sears repair place repairs lots of appliances and models.
It's worth a try.

-- Elva

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Don Jurkowitz <donjur1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am looking for a reliable, knowledgeable appliance repair person (place?),
> for my refrigerator.? My freezer compartment is working fine but the
> refrigerator part is not working at all.? The refrigerator is not
> tremendously old (I think less than 8 years).? It is a Magic Chef.? Thanks
> for any suggestions.
>
> Don J.
>
> Don Jurkowitz
> Chemistry Department
> CCRI
> donjur1 at yahoo.com
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:01:47 -0400
From: louise zuckerman <rlzuckerman at msn.com>
To: <elvamath at gmail.com>, <donjur1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: Re: [Summit] Large appliance repair
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Wickford Appliance on Newport Ave does repairs.  They are good and reliable.
Louise Zuckerman

> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:57:28 -0400
> From: elvamath at gmail.com
> To: donjur1 at yahoo.com
> CC: Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Large appliance repair
> 
> I think the Sears repair place repairs lots of appliances and models.
> It's worth a try.
> 
> -- Elva
> 
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Don Jurkowitz <donjur1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am looking for a reliable, knowledgeable appliance repair person (place?),
> > for my refrigerator.  My freezer compartment is working fine but the
> > refrigerator part is not working at all.  The refrigerator is not
> > tremendously old (I think less than 8 years).  It is a Magic Chef.  Thanks
> > for any suggestions.
> >
> > Don J.
> >
> > Don Jurkowitz
> > Chemistry Department
> > CCRI
> > donjur1 at yahoo.com
> >
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http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:04:19 -0400
From: Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>
To: Erin Johnson <eerjohnson at gmail.com>
Cc: summit at sna.providence.ri.us, Phil Ter <fillsol8 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Break-in Suspect Spotted on Lauriston
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Good point, Erin.  The car snooping (he may have been snooping around our
house, too, I just don't know) occurred on Lauriston Street in the block
between Hope and Bayard.

The break-in location has not yet, to my knowledge, been disclosed.  And it
probably wasn't the same person, because the kid I saw was a teenager and
relatively short of stature.

Liberty, I don't think anyone is talking about jumping to conclusions about
African American males.  I do think it's my responsibility as a homeowner
and neighbor to keep track of who our neighbors are, and to notice and
report suspicious activity -- including casing -- whether the people
involved are white, black, or any combination of ethnic traits.

-- Elva

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Erin Johnson <eerjohnson at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's helpful when discussing these to be very specific about the location.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Hope for Health <
> libertyliterary at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Theresa,
>>
>> I in no way meant to suggest that YOU were overreacting.
>> Of course, someone peering into your car on your
>> property is cause for concern.
>>
>> I was just mentioning that it is possible to become a bit
>> too nervous about these things - it is not uncommon in
>> some cities for people to be very anxious whenever they
>> are sharing the street with an African-American male.
>>
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Liberty G
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 8/14/10, Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Theresa Mathiesen <elvamath at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Break-in Suspect Spotted on Lauriston
>> To: "Hope for Health" <libertyliterary at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Phil Ter" <fillsol8 at yahoo.com>, summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 6:46 PM
>>
>>
>> I hear you Liberty. However, he was on our property, doing something with
>> our car. (Peering in? Testing the door?) In view of all the car riflings
>> we've been having in our neighborhood, I don't think I'm overreacting.)
>> -- Elva
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Hope for Health <
>> libertyliterary at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=libertyliterary@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> For several years in the late 1990's, I worked for
>> the Community Policing office at the Providence
>> Police Department. Unfortunately, these kinds
>> of break-ins were common then.
>>
>> It is helpful that we, as neighbors, are alert to
>> see suspicious activity around someone's home.
>> This is a great help to crime deterrence.
>>
>> However, I hope we will be cautious about
>> overreacting to any young African-American
>> male with a touseled afro!
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Liberty G
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 8/14/10, Theresa Mathiesen 
>><elvamath at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=elvamath@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Theresa Mathiesen 
>><elvamath at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=elvamath@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Break-in Suspect Spotted on Lauriston
>> To: "Phil Ter" <fillsol8 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=fillsol8@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> Cc: 
>>summit at sna.providence.ri.us<http://mc/compose?to=summit@sna.providence.ri.us>
>> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 3:09 PM
>>
>>
>> Thanks for putting out the alert, Phil.
>>
>> A corrrection -- the guy I saw snooping around my car on Lauriston was a
>> lot shorter than 5'10" or 6'. My guess is 5' 6" at the most.
>>
>> A policeman came and is looking for him.
>>
>> -- Elva
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Phil Ter 
>><fillsol8 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=fillsol8@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> The individual who is suspected of breaking into houses in the Summit
>> Neighborhood was seen snooping around a car at 1:30pm today (Saturday,
>> August 14th). A neighbor came out, and watched him. When he noticed her, he
>> fled into another neighbors backyard. I checked the area about five minutes
>> later, but he was gone. He does fit the description of the person mentioned
>> previously, about 5'10 to 6 feet tall, thin, and sporting an unkept afro.
>> Most likely in his late teens or early twenties. Apparently he's not nervous
>> about committing crimes in broad daylight. Please keep an eye out and alert
>> the police if you see him.
>>
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