[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 22

Wed Mar 17 18:53:57 UTC 2010

I agree with you Liberty G.
We should not be here only for trash concerns, missing cats, street that should be fix, etc.
Health belongs to everyone and who knows sometimes one email could save someone life? If you do not want to read the email, just delete it.

What we could do is at the SUBJECT we should add HEALTH, WATER PROBLEMS, MISSING CAT, ETC. So you only read what you want. It is very easy to delete one email.

That could be the solution?
Marco

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From: Hope for Health <libertyliterary at yahoo.com>
To: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us" <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>; Ben Rackliffe <benrackliffe at gmail.com>
Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us" <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 2:26:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 22

Am I the only one who thinks that neighbors helping
neighbors with advice and discussion about some of
the concerns of daily life is a good thing?

If we revert to nothing more than kvetching about
potholes and recording break-ins, I'll just leave
the list.

Blessings,

Liberty G

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Ben Rackliffe <benrackliffe at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ben Rackliffe <benrackliffe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 60, Issue 22
> To: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us" <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us" <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 10:37 AM
> I agree. There have been too many
> emails that don't concern the  
> neighborhood or greater city. They are adversly effecting
> the  
> functionality of this mailing list. A different forum is
> appropriate.
> 
> Ben Rackliffe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 17, 2010, at 10:26 AM, summit-request at sna.providence.ri.us
> wrote:
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> >   1. Banana lectin identified as HIV
> inhibitor by U-M    scientists
> >      UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN (marco
> pereira)
> >   2. suggestion for non-local postings
> on the Summit list (John  
> > Landry)
> >   3. Local Posts (John Bazik)
> >   4. Re: more water chemistry (Hope for
> Health)
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: marco pereira <markenid2004 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Summit] Banana lectin identified as HIV
> inhibitor by U-M
> >    scientists UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
> > To: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> > Message-ID: <333966.7348.qm at web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> > Discovery of how Ban-Lec binds to a key HIV-1 protein
> opens
> > door to developing microbicides that can prevent
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> > HIV
> >
> >
> > ANN ARBOR, Mich.?
> > A potent new HIV inhibitor derived from bananas may
> open the door to
> > new treatments to prevent sexual transmission of HIV,
> according to a  
> > University of Michigan Medical School study published
> this week.
> > Scientists have an emerging interest in lectins,
> naturally
> > occurring chemicals in plants, because of their
> ability to halt the
> > chain of reaction that leads to a variety of
> infections.
> > In laboratory tests, BanLec, the lectin found in
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> > March 19 in the Journal of Biological Chemistry,
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:11:29 -0400
> > From: John Landry <jtlandry at verizon.net>
> > Subject: [Summit] suggestion for non-local postings on
> the Summit list
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> > There have been a lot of postings lately on health
> concerns.  I'm
> > quite interested in the ones about local matters, such
> as our water
> > quality.  I'm not interested in the ones that
> could have appeared on
> > any neighborhood list in the country.  Since this
> is a neighborhood
> > list, could we set up a special subgroup about
> non-local matters,
> > which people would have to opt-in to read?  -John
> Landry
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:52:16 -0400
> > From: John Bazik <jsb at cs.brown.edu>
> > Subject: [Summit] Local Posts
> > To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
> > Message-ID: <20100317135216.GA26070 at cs.brown.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Please remember that this is the Summit list - for
> issues concerning
> > our neighborhood and our city.  If your post does
> not have a  
> > neighborhood
> > connection, please find a different forum for it.
> >
> > Also a reminder to Summit readers that the Market list
> is a separate,
> > very-low-volume venue for buying and selling with your
> neighbors, and
> > for learning about sales and events at local
> businesses.  Most of you
> > already read it, but I think new people sometimes miss
> it when they
> > sign up.
> >
> > To subscribe, visit the "Mailing List" link on SNA's
> home page:
> >
> > http://sna.providence.ri.us/
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Hope for Health <libertyliterary at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Summit] more water chemistry
> > To: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>, 
>   Breslers
> >    <breslerfamily at gmail.com>
> > Message-ID: <688872.70624.qm at web50805.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > It is truly sad that we have contaminated our water
> > and changed our water containers to toxic plastic,
> > so that you appear to be stuck with the choice
> > between possible mold or drinking unhealthy
> > chemicals!? So sorry!? I wish I had a better
> > answer for you.
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Liberty G
> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Breslers <breslerfamily at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Breslers <breslerfamily at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Summit] more water chemistry
> > To: "Summit Neighborhood" <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:59 PM
> >
> > Poland Spring is close to pH 7. Most of the other
> bottled waters I  
> > tested were closer to 8.
> > Things like molds grow in water filters, to which I am
> very allergic/ 
> > sensitive, and also I do not think they will correct
> pH.
> >
> > One filter housing I saw had a blown in filler, which
> is  
> > formaldehyde!!
> > For now I am doing bottled, although it's not
> perfect.
> >
> > Elianna
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Hope for Health
> <libertyliterary at yahoo.com
> 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Charlotte,
> >
> >
> >
> > Below is a link to the best source of info on this I
> could
> >
> > quickly find.  They start with water filter
> pitchers, but
> >
> > go on to discuss faucet, under-the-counter and
> whole-house
> >
> > filters.  They mention that some faucets may need
> an
> >
> > "adaptor" - perhaps such is available for yours. 
> I'd suggest
> >
> > contacting these folks to ask.  Otherwise, my
> main comment
> >
> > is that the water filter pitchers are plastic, which
> I'm
> >
> > not happy about.  However, if none of the other
> options is
> >
> > possible for you, they would be better and cheaper
> than
> >
> > bottled water (also in plastic) - as long as you keep
> them
> >
> > in the refrigerator and don't let them get warm. 
> Plastic
> >
> > leaches chemicals into food when heated, which is why
> you
> >
> > should never put it in the microwave.
> >
> >
> >
> > See:
> www.consumersearch.com/water-filters/water-filter-pitchers
> >
> >
> >
> > Please let me know how you make out!  We used to
> have great
> >
> > water here, but they had a problem a few years back
> and now
> >
> > chlorinate the heck out of it.  This doesn't
> remove the
> >
> > many chemical contaminants already in the water, but
> adds
> >
> > chlorine chems to the mix.  Yukkh! :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> >
> >
> > Liberty G
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/16/10, O'Kelly, Charlotte <COKELLY at providence.edu> 
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: O'Kelly, Charlotte <COKELLY at providence.edu>
> >
> >> Subject: RE: [Summit] more water chemistry
> >
> >> To: "Hope for Health" <libertyliterary at yahoo.com>
> >
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:29 AM
> >
> >> the new style faucet I have on my
> >
> >> kitchen sink won't accept a filter. Is there any
> other way I
> >
> >> can filter my drinking water?
> >
> >> Charlotte
> >
> >>
> >
> >> ________________________________________
> >
> >> From: summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us
> >
> >> [summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us]
> >
> >> On Behalf Of Hope for Health [libertyliterary at yahoo.com]
> >
> >> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:36 PM
> >
> >> To: Theresa Mathiesen; Summit Neighborhood;
> Breslers
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Summit] more water chemistry
> >
> >>
> >
> >> For drinking water, both my organization,
> >
> >> Toxics Information Project (TIP) and the
> >
> >> great independent research non-profit,
> >
> >> Environmental Working Group recommend
> >
> >> a water filter on your kitchen faucet.
> >
> >> That avoids the plastic, which can indeed
> >
> >> leach into your food or water, especially
> >
> >> when exposed to heat.  It also takes out
> >
> >> at least a fair quantity of contaminants
> >
> >> in the water from your pipes.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> See the excerpts below on the subject from
> >
> >> our Autumn 2007 TIP TALKS newsletter,
> >
> >> at www.toxicsinfo.org/tiptalks/Autumn07.htm
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Blessings,
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Liberty G
> >
> >>
> ****************************************************************
> >
> >>        TAP WATER:  TO
> DRINK OR
> >
> >> NOT TO DRINK?
> >
> >>
> >
> >> The recent DC Tap Water report revealed that tap
> water
> >
> >> samples in the Washington, DC area contained
> toxic
> >
> >> chlorination by-products at levels above federal
> health
> >
> >> limits.  An average reader might read that
> and run to
> >
> >> the local Safeway or Piggly Wiggly to stock up on
> bottled
> >
> >> water. But you're smarter than that.  You
> probably even
> >
> >> already know there's a cheaper, more
> >
> >> environmentally-friendly way to dramatically lower
> levels of
> >
> >> these toxic byproducts: carbon filtration. In
> fact, it's 10
> >
> >> to 20 times less expensive than bottled water
> ($100 vs.
> >
> >> nearly $2,000 annually) AND it doesn't produce the
> waste and
> >
> >> pollution bottled water does. Carbon filtration
> could be a
> >
> >> countertop pitcher, a faucet-mount, an under-sink
> model, or
> >
> >> a whole-house model.   So make the
> smart
> >
> >> choice: pass up bottled water. Get a carbon filter
> instead.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Chlorine Pollutants at High Levels in DC Tap
> Water
> >
> >>
> >
> >> New tests find high levels of hazardous
> chlorination
> >
> >> byproducts in D.C. tap water
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Published July 19, 2007
> >
> >>
> >
> >> In spite of the best efforts of the Washington
> Aqueduct to
> >
> >> provide quality drinking water to the District of
> Columbia,
> >
> >> tap water tests from May, 2007 revealed toxic
> by-products of
> >
> >> the chemicals used to purify Potomac River water,
> at levels
> >
> >> above annual federal health limits.  These
> results
> >
> >> illustrate the tremendous difficulties that water
> utilities
> >
> >> face when trying to provide tap water that is free
> of
> >
> >> potentially deadly bacteria and pathogens, yet
> not
> >
> >> contaminated with toxic by-products of the
> chemicals used to
> >
> >> kill these same microbes.  This problem is
> particularly
> >
> >> acute when utilities draw water from poorly
> protected water
> >
> >> sources like the Potomac River.  As recently
> reported
> >
> >> in the Washington Post, the Potomac may not even
> be suitable
> >
> >> for swimming; turning this water into safe
> drinking water is
> >
> >> a serious public health challenge.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Based on these test results the Environmental
> Working Group
> >
> >> (EWG) is recommending carbon filtration for all
> 1.1 million
> >
> >> consumers of tap water from the Washington
> Aqueduct in
> >
> >> Washington DC and northern Virginia. Carbon
> filtration of
> >
> >> tap water will dramatically lower levels of toxic
> >
> >> disinfection byproducts; it is also 10 to 20 times
> less
> >
> >> expensive than bottled water, and does not produce
> the waste
> >
> >> and pollution associated with the packaging and
> transport of
> >
> >> bottled water.  EWG collected tap water
> samples in May,
> >
> >> 2007, from 18 locations across Washington D.C.,
> including
> >
> >> the U.S. Capitol, EPA headquarters, parks,
> schools, and
> >
> >> residences of pregnant women and other groups
> susceptible to
> >
> >> health harms from exposures to disinfection
> byproducts. We
> >
> >> commissioned tests from an accredited lab for two
> classes of
> >
> >> disinfection byproducts ? trihalomethanes, or
> THMs, and
> >
> >> haloacetic acids, or HAAs. The laboratory analyses
> found:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>    * More than 40 percent of the tap
> water
> >
> >> samples [1] contained chemical byproducts of water
> treatment
> >
> >> above annual federal health limits. The group of
> >
> >> contaminants known as haloacetic acids (HAAs) were
> found at
> >
> >> their highest levels since 2001, the last year
> before the
> >
> >> Washington Aqueduct modified its treatment
> techniques in an
> >
> >> attempt to reduce levels of trihalomethanes,
> related
> >
> >> byproducts of tap water chlorination.
> >
> >>    * HAAs were highest at the Martin
> Luther King
> >
> >> Jr. Memorial Library, an elementary school in the
> district's
> >
> >> Northwest quadrant, and the home of a woman who
> was 9 months
> >
> >> pregnant.
> >
> >>    * Almost 90 percent of the samples
> had THMs
> >
> >> at levels associated in epidemiological studies
> with low
> >
> >> birth weight and serious birth defects in infants.
> TTHM
> >
> >> levels were highest at the National Mall, the
> same
> >
> >> elementary school, and the home of a 2-year-old
> infant.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Benefits of water disinfection come at a price.
> >
> >> Chlorination of tap water is one of the greatest
> public
> >
> >> health improvements of the last 100 years, vastly
> reducing
> >
> >> deaths from water-borne diseases. But chlorination
> produces
> >
> >> disinfection byproducts (DBPs) like THMs and HAAs
> that are
> >
> >> themselves potentially harmful. Because of the
> recognized
> >
> >> health risks of the byproducts, in particular
> THMs, many
> >
> >> utilities, including the Washington Aqueduct, have
> switched
> >
> >> from treatment using so-called free chlorine to
> compounds
> >
> >> called chloramines, which tend to produce lower
> levels of
> >
> >> the handful of disinfection byproducts for which
> EPA has set
> >
> >> legal limits, including THMs and HAAs. But
> because
> >
> >> chloramines are not as effective at disinfection
> as free
> >
> >> chlorine, the Aqueduct, like other utilities that
> use
> >
> >> chloramine, periodically switches back to
> chlorine.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> This so-called "chlorine burn" removes sludge and
> sediment
> >
> >> from the pipes, but also temporarily raises the
> level of
> >
> >> disinfection byproducts. This year the utility's
> chlorine
> >
> >> burn was conducted between April 7 and May 7.
> While
> >
> >> chloramines appear to help lower THM levels, they
> also
> >
> >> produce an entirely different set of byproducts,
> including
> >
> >> the HAAs and other byproducts, for which we have
> less
> >
> >> information about long-term human health effects.
> A recent
> >
> >> EPA study found that water treated with
> chloramines had the
> >
> >> highest levels of iodacetic acid, a byproduct that
> in animal
> >
> >> studies has been found toxic to cells and DNA. In
> general
> >
> >> however, the long-term public health consequences
> of
> >
> >> exposure to chloramines and chloramines byproducts
> is poorly
> >
> >> understood.  What is known about HAAs,
> however, raises
> >
> >> concerns. EPA classifies HAAs as possible human
> carcinogens,
> >
> >> and peer-reviewed studies have identified adverse
> >
> >> reproductive and developmental effects, and the
> ability
> >
> >> to damage DNA. The state of Oregon has warned that
> long
> >
> >> term exposure to HAAs at levels equal to those
> found in DC
> >
> >> tap water could cause injury to the brain, nervous
> system,
> >
> >> the eyes, and the reproductive system.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Disinfection byproducts are a bigger problem than
> these
> >
> >> tests show.  EPA scientists have identified a
> total of
> >
> >> 600 disinfection byproducts in tap water but EPA
> has set
> >
> >> legal limits in tap water for only 11.  And
> these legal
> >
> >> limits, such as those for HAAs and THMs, are
> established as
> >
> >> a balance between health, treatment cost and
> >
> >> feasibility.  This is a critical point for
> most
> >
> >> consumers:  The legal limit, or MCL, is not
> intended to
> >
> >> be a true safe exposure level.  For almost
> all
> >
> >> contaminants in tap water, including those
> identified in
> >
> >> this analysis, the MCL allows far more
> contamination than
> >
> >> the truly safe level, or what EPA refers to as the
> public
> >
> >> health goal.  In 1999, EPA strengthened the
> legal limit
> >
> >> for THMs in tap water and set a first-time
> standard for HAAs
> >
> >> due to these chemicals' potential links to cancer,
> birth
> >
> >> defects, and other adverse health outcomes. 
> To comply
> >
> >> with these tighter standards, DC Water and Sewer
> Authority
> >
> >> began using chloramine as a
> >
> >> disinfectant because of its known capacity to
> lower levels
> >
> >> of the regulated byproducts.  This switch,
> which the
> >
> >> utilities' water quality test reports show did
> indeed lower
> >
> >> THM and HAA levels, also spurred some significant
> negative
> >
> >> consequences: it likely created a complex, new
> suite of
> >
> >> disinfection byproducts that are neither defined
> nor
> >
> >> studied; and it contributed to elevated lead
> levels in tap
> >
> >> water across the District, a problem that
> prompted
> >
> >> additional manipulations in water c
> 
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