[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 76, Issue 44

Peter Gallant Pete1188 at cox.net
Sat Jul 30 18:55:47 UTC 2011


I'm seeing a ton (almost daily) of suspicious character/break-in postings on 
here. Probably a silly question, but have the police been notified? If so, I 
can honestly say that I haven't seen a police car or officer around the 
neighborhood . . . ever. Are they driving by periodically and I just don't 
see them? Any info on police activity/response would  be appreciated. 
Thanks.


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> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:22:29 -0400
> From: Paul Wilde <zenyente at gmail.com>
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> Friends & Neighbors,
>
> If you have a cell phone, I would encourage you to carry it w/ you when 
> you
> go walking in the neighborhood.
> It's high time we are not perceived as weak, just because we are nice (as 
> so
> aptly put to me by a neighbor today).  The spotters and thieves have been
> using them to great advantage.  Let that become a second nature of our
> "10,000 eyes".  If you see a crime in progress or something suspicious 
> that
> fits suspicious behaviors already described, you can report instantly
> (remember: 272-1111), and indicate which direction they are headed. 
> Reason
> it's suspicious and identifying details are critical.
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> As posted by JB earlier, "We can all help by staying alert, and passing
> along information. We need not be paranoid, just cautious."
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> Paul
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> From: Samantha Morse <cherrepaha at hotmail.com>
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>>
>> The asphalt guy approached me on Burlington Street on Wednesday 
>> afternoon.
>>  It definitely seemed weird to me but because I was unloading my children
>> from the car, I didn't have a chance to notice if he was casing the 
>> street.
>>  He took off as soon as I told him I wasn't interested.
>>
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> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:07:15 -0400
> From: "Monique S Doherty" <monique at msdoherty.net>
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> Hi All,
>
> I find it noble that there are so many residents on the lookout for 
> unusual activitity occuring in the neighborhood. It certainly has paid 
> off! I feel very bad for those of you whom have been victims. It is an 
> awful feeling; as it has happened to me several times over the years.
>
> Two things which concern me are:
>
> Are those "committing these acts" on our email list--receiving the 
> break-down of the happenings?
>
> The Police should be called, even if it is an observant neighbor calling 
> regarding an "innocent" act which turns sour. Suspicious to us is reason 
> enough to call the police.
>
> Monique
> 4th St
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> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:08:49 -0400
> From: Robert Mathiesen <rmath13 at gmail.com>
> To: Monique S Doherty <monique at msdoherty.net>
> Cc: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Suspicious vehicles
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> Hi All,
>
> At the last CrimeWatch public meeting, Lieutenant Sciavulli said -- if I
> remember correctly -- that even though some of the criminals might well 
> read
> our list, it was still a very good idea for us to post the details of
> break-ins and suspicious incidents.  We need to pool our information about
> what has happened, and this list seems to be the best way to do that. 
> Then
> each one of us will know better what to look for and when to call the 
> police
> with information that they can use.
>
> Also, the Lieutenant said that when we call, we should phone 272-1111, 
> which
> connects directly with the Providence Police Department.  We should NOT --
> repeat, NOT! -- phone 911, which reaches the State Police and delays a
> response by the Providence police by 15 minutes or more.
>
> We should call right away when we see a break-in in progress, obviously. 
> We
> should also call right away when we have enough information for the police
> to do something concrete toward identifying or finding the people involved
> -- when we have a license plate number or other vehicle identification, or 
> a
> photograph or good, detailed description of a person.  If the available
> officers and patrol cars are not busy with something more serious than a
> break-in (for instance, with a murder investigation), they will send
> someone.  (And budget constraints mean that there aren't all that many
> available officers and patrol cars these days in District 8, which is our
> district.)
>
> The Lieutenant said that these same budget constraints mean that the 
> police
> don't have the funds to do some of the things people see police doing on
> TV.  DNA testing is expensive, for instance.  Nor do some of the things
> shown on TV work as smoothly in real life.  Fingerprints have to be pretty
> complete and pretty clear, on the right kind of surface, to really be 
> usable
> for identification or conviction; and you don't find fingerprints of that
> quality all that often.
>
> Nor do the police have the manpower to sift through all the vague reports 
> of
> suspicious activity in hope of teasing out a pattern that can lead to an
> arrest and conviction.  If anyone is going to do that kind of information
> sifting, it will have to be us neighbors, amateurs that we are.  If we 
> don't
> or won't do it, it won;t get done.
>
> So keep on posting everything that sets off warning bells, and trust your
> instincts.  Some of it may be overreaction, but some of it won't.
>
> Also, Lieutenant Sciavulli regularly reads this list, and all the
> information we post here gets to him.  Useful information also gets to the
> patrolmen.
>
> And of course paranoia doesn't help at all.  Don't panic!  The trick is to
> keep a cool head even in an insecure world.  Phone in (272-1111) anything
> where a quick response by a patrol car can help, and post the rest here.
>
> Thanks!
> Bob M
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Monique S Doherty 
> <monique at msdoherty.net>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I find it noble that there are so many residents on the lookout for 
>> unusual
>> activitity occuring in the neighborhood. It certainly has paid off! I 
>> feel
>> very bad for those of you whom have been victims. It is an awful feeling; 
>> as
>> it has happened to me several times over the years.
>>
>> Two things which concern me are:
>>
>> Are those "committing these acts" on our email list--receiving the
>> break-down of the happenings?
>>
>> The Police *should* be called, even if it is an observant neighbor 
>> calling
>> regarding an "innocent" act which turns sour. *Suspicious to us is reason
>> enough to call the police.*
>> **
>> Monique
>> 4th St
>>
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