[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 91, Issue 11
Craig Borges
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Sat Oct 6 04:28:59 UTC 2012
I agree with Monique. Candidates should stay off or at least refrain from selling themselves unless you want to open that can of worms and me thinks it's not wise.
Craig Borges
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On Oct 5, 2012, at 8:28 PM, summit-request at sna.providence.ri.us wrote:
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> 1. Marketing (Monique S Doherty)
> 2. Re: Marketing (John Bazik)
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> 4. Re: FW: [Mark Binder Campaign News] News from the Trail:
> Corruption Costs (Jim Kelley)
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:01:50 -0400
> From: "Monique S Doherty" <monique at msdoherty.net>
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> Subject: [Summit] Marketing
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> Neighbors,
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> I feel strongly opposed to a person "selling" themselves for political gain
> on the main list.
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> This should be done on the [Market] list, as one would do for "sale" items.
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> Thank You,
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> Monique
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:06:35 -0400
> From: John Bazik <jsb at cs.brown.edu>
> To: Monique S Doherty <monique at msdoherty.net>
> Cc: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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> On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:01:50PM -0400, Monique S Doherty wrote:
>> I feel strongly opposed to a person "selling" themselves for political gain
>> on the main list.
>>
>> This should be done on the [Market] list, as one would do for "sale" items.
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> Whether or not politics is an acceptable topic for the list is a topic
> for the list. However, I don't think that politics is an appropriate
> topic for the Market list.
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> John
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> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:22:22 -0400
> From: Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
> To: John Bazik <jsb at cs.brown.edu>, Monique S Doherty
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> Cc: Summit Neighborhood <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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> If we discuss community issues, we ought to discuss community politics as
> well. greg
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> On 10/5/12 7:06 PM, "John Bazik" <jsb at cs.brown.edu> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:01:50PM -0400, Monique S Doherty wrote:
>>> I feel strongly opposed to a person "selling" themselves for political
>>> gain
>>> on the main list.
>>>
>>> This should be done on the [Market] list, as one would do for "sale"
>>> items.
>>
>> Whether or not politics is an acceptable topic for the list is a topic
>> for the list. However, I don't think that politics is an appropriate
>> topic for the Market list.
>>
>> John
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:40:28 +0000
> From: "Jim Kelley" <jim-kelley2 at cox.net>
> To: "barfootjim" <barfootjim at gmail.com>
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> Fortunately, Providence voters approved a charter change in 2006 that established term limits for Mayor and City Councilor. It may be a good idea in the General Assembly.
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> John, I would like to second the notion on a listserve dedicated to political campaign type topics. This is an important issue for Summit but can easily bog down the ListServe and cause heated discussions not directly related to the mission of the SNA. I think it would be cool if candidates and elected officials could respond or not to questions (or suggestions in the spirit of the uncaucus) on this 3rd site.
> This would supplement the Forum on the 17th. For example it would have been interesting to have a question/ answer session with Rhoda Perry about her method of deciding not to re-run.
> Jim Kelley
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:28:23 -0400
> From: Robert Mathiesen <rmath13 at gmail.com>
> To: Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
> Cc: Summit Neighborhood <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>, Monique S
> Doherty <monique at msdoherty.net>
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> I agree with what John and Greg have each said.
>
> Let the whole list weigh in, if it chooses, on whether political issues and
> questions are or are not appropriate for the main Summit list. Speaking
> for myself, I think that they are appropriate, and that this bears directly
> on the kind of community we want to have in Summit.
>
> In fact, almost every significant issue which any community has to resolve
> for itself will generally (IMHO) prove divisive, and will cause hard
> feelings and anger as the community wrestles with it. Only a Pollyanna
> could suppose that agreement can always be reached without some hard
> fighting or harsh words on the way.
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> Moreover, any solution reached by any community will usually involve a
> measure of compromise, and thus will irritate everyone who thinks that
> there is usually a single right position to take on every real issue, and
> that all good and reasonable people must be able to agree on that
> position. As if disagreements can only arise between people when some of
> them are either stupid or evil; as if good and intelligent people will all
> be able to agree on every hard question! The world is not like that, and
> people are not like that. To suppose that they are so, or must be so, is
> to wreck any community.
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> The only way to maintain a strong community in the real world is to face
> the hard questions and significant issues (even if the process repulses
> some and angers others), to wrestle with them despite the anger and
> revulsion one feels, and to hammer out compromises that can be implemented,
> even though they satisfy no one completely.
>
> But this is always, in our world, a matter of practical politics. If we
> feel we have to play "nice" and not take positions on the list which will
> cause dissension, then we destroy any possibility of forming a real
> community in which we can all work together in a civil manner toward modest
> common goals despite our passionate disagreements on principles and
> long-range goals.
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> This is why I think the main Summit list should be open to political
> discussions. It is not so much a question of loyally supporting one
> candidate or another. In and of itself, that is no more important than
> supporting one sports team or another, say, the Red Sox or the Yankees.
> (Yes, I know that is a provocative example.) Rather, it is a question of
> how we wish to be governed -- and only incidentally, which candidate might
> be more apt to govern us in the way we wish to be governed.
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>
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> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> If we discuss community issues, we ought to discuss community politics as
>> well. greg
>>
>> On 10/5/12 7:06 PM, "John Bazik" <jsb at cs.brown.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:01:50PM -0400, Monique S Doherty wrote:
>>>> I feel strongly opposed to a person "selling" themselves for political
>>>> gain
>>>> on the main list.
>>>>
>>>> This should be done on the [Market] list, as one would do for "sale"
>>>> items.
>>>
>>> Whether or not politics is an acceptable topic for the list is a topic
>>> for the list. However, I don't think that politics is an appropriate
>>> topic for the Market list.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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