[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 126, Issue 4

heid gervais hpgervais at cox.net
Fri Sep 4 14:23:47 CDT 2015


Hi,

India is proposing to convert the outdoor space to expand what I understand
is a very small kitchen (they prepare much of the food offsite at this
time), add storage space and an office. This would eliminate the outdoor
dining. We live right behind the restaurant and Amar asked us over to
discuss his plans. We want him to stay in business; he is a good and
responsible neighbor. When I first moved in (98), I had a rat problem and
when I went to treat it, Terminix suggested that I ask India to get a plan
for treatment as well. Ever since they did, no more rats. When there are
issues with anything and I call, they are very responsive. There is an
existing liquor license for that property. If Amar can't make the restaurant
work because of the tight kitchen, he might decide to move the restaurant.
Because there has been a liquor license on that property space for years,
most likely another one would be granted and instead of an older generation
nightclub like Bumblebees, we might end up with something really noisy and
raucous. I do not want that. So we are doing what we can to work with him. 

That's what I know about all of it.. It is not his burden to create parking
as it is not a residence.

Heidi Gervais

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Today's Topics:

   1. India restaurant and zoning variance (James Barfoot)
   2. Re: India restaurant and zoning variance (cagenlaw at acagen.com)
   3. Re: India restaurant and zoning variance (Jacqui Ketner)
   4. Re: India restaurant and zoning variance (Michael McGlynn)
   5. Play dates + activities for a 7-year-old girl? (Peter Gallant)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 17:54:33 -0400
From: James Barfoot <barfootjim at gmail.com>
To: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us Neighborhood"
	<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: [Summit] India restaurant and zoning variance
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For any neighbors who live in the vicinity of India restaurant, and any who
have tried to squeeze by their planters on the public sidewalk, etc: 

India now wants a zoning variance to increase their existing structure
                  from 3116 sq. ft. to ? (wait for it) 
                           5976 sq.ft.  !!

 The lot size is 5054 sq. ft.

They are also requesting to be excused from a 10 foot rear yard setback.
They want to make it two feet from the adjacent residence.
 They are also requesting to be excused from having to get a Special Use
Permit, which is required for a restaurant  over 3500 gross sq. ft.
 They are also requesting to be excused from having to provide an additional
6 parking spaces. They propose adding none.

If you, too, are tired of the spreading land grab that India has been doing
for years, come to the Zoning Board hearing about this.
First Floor Conference Room at the Mayor Joseph A. Doorley Municipal
Building located at 444 Westminster Street, Providence. 
               This is scheduled for Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 5:30
PM

The camel's nose, front feet, and stomach are already in the tent.

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 16:57:04 -0600
From: cagenlaw at acagen.com
To: James Barfoot <barfootjim at gmail.com>
Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us Neighborhood"
	<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] India restaurant and zoning variance
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It sounds like India is trying to enclose the outdoor seating area in the
rear, the one with the delightful if somewhat uncomfortable swings. 
If that's the case, I'm not sure the granting of the variance would have
much of an effect on the neighborhood. I'm speculating that the project is
intended to make yearround use of that dining area. I don't think India is
trying to increase its footprint.
This is an urban neighborhood in which on-street parking is the norm. 
India is a good neighbor and sponsors community events that benefit
residents and its business. It does post a sign asking people not to park on
the incorrectly spelled Chase Street.
I hope India has a public meeting to tell us of its  plans. But at first
blush I would not fight it, although I do wish the back dining area stays
outdoors. Maybe there'll be a retractable roof.
Andy Cagen



On 2015-09-03 15:54, James Barfoot wrote:
> For any neighbors who live in the vicinity of India restaurant, and 
> any who have tried to squeeze by their planters on the public 
> sidewalk, etc:
> 
> India now wants a zoning variance to increase their existing structure  
> from 3116 sq. ft. to ? (wait for it)
>  5976 SQ.FT. !!
> 
>  The lot size is 5054 SQ. FT.
> 
> They are also requesting to be excused from a 10 foot rear yard 
> setback. They want to make it two feet from the adjacent residence.
>  They are also requesting to be excused from having to get a Special 
> Use Permit, which is required for a restaurant over 3500 gross sq. ft.
>  They are also requesting to be excused from having to provide an 
> additional 6 parking spaces. They propose adding none.
> 
> If you, too, are tired of the spreading land grab that India has been 
> doing for years, come to the ZONING BOARD HEARING about this.
> First Floor Conference Room at the Mayor Joseph A. Doorley Municipal 
> Building located at 444 WESTMINSTER STREET, Providence.
>  This is scheduled for WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 2015 at 5:30 PM
> 
> THE CAMEL'S NOSE, FRONT FEET, AND STOMACH ARE ALREADY IN THE TENT.
> 
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:37:11 -0400
From: Jacqui Ketner <jacqui at akutech.com>
To: "cagenlaw at acagen.com" <cagenlaw at acagen.com>
Cc: James Barfoot <barfootjim at gmail.com>,	"summit at sna.providence.ri.us
	Neighborhood" <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] India restaurant and zoning variance
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Good points and well put. Let's not jump to find fault till we know what's
being proposed. 

Jacqui

> On Sep 3, 2015, at 6:57 PM, cagenlaw at acagen.com wrote:
> 
> It sounds like India is trying to enclose the outdoor seating area in the
rear, the one with the delightful if somewhat uncomfortable swings. If
that's the case, I'm not sure the granting of the variance would have much
of an effect on the neighborhood. I'm speculating that the project is
intended to make yearround use of that dining area. I don't think India is
trying to increase its footprint.
> This is an urban neighborhood in which on-street parking is the norm.
India is a good neighbor and sponsors community events that benefit
residents and its business. It does post a sign asking people not to park on
the incorrectly spelled Chase Street.
> I hope India has a public meeting to tell us of its  plans. But at first
blush I would not fight it, although I do wish the back dining area stays
outdoors. Maybe there'll be a retractable roof.
> Andy Cagen
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2015-09-03 15:54, James Barfoot wrote:
>> For any neighbors who live in the vicinity of India restaurant, and 
>> any who have tried to squeeze by their planters on the public 
>> sidewalk, etc:
>> India now wants a zoning variance to increase their existing 
>> structure from 3116 sq. ft. to ? (wait for it)
>> 5976 SQ.FT. !!
>> The lot size is 5054 SQ. FT.
>> They are also requesting to be excused from a 10 foot rear yard 
>> setback. They want to make it two feet from the adjacent residence.
>> They are also requesting to be excused from having to get a Special 
>> Use Permit, which is required for a restaurant over 3500 gross sq. ft.
>> They are also requesting to be excused from having to provide an 
>> additional 6 parking spaces. They propose adding none.
>> If you, too, are tired of the spreading land grab that India has been 
>> doing for years, come to the ZONING BOARD HEARING about this.
>> First Floor Conference Room at the Mayor Joseph A. Doorley Municipal 
>> Building located at 444 WESTMINSTER STREET, Providence.
>> This is scheduled for WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 2015 at 5:30 PM THE 
>> CAMEL'S NOSE, FRONT FEET, AND STOMACH ARE ALREADY IN THE TENT.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Summit mailing list
>> Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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>> .us SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 19:42:15 -0400
From: Michael McGlynn <mmcglynn at gmail.com>
To: James Barfoot <barfootjim at gmail.com>
Cc: "summit at sna.providence.ri.us Neighborhood"
	<summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
Subject: Re: [Summit] India restaurant and zoning variance
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What does their neighbor say?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM, James Barfoot <barfootjim at gmail.com> wrote:

> For any neighbors who live in the vicinity of India restaurant, and 
> any who have tried to squeeze by their planters on the public sidewalk,
etc:
>
> India now wants a zoning variance to increase their existing structure
>                   from 3116 sq. ft. to ? (wait for it)
>                            *5976 sq.ft. * !!
>
>  The lot size is *5054 sq. ft.*
>
> They are also requesting to be excused from a 10 foot rear yard setback.
> They want to make it two feet from the adjacent residence.
>  They are also requesting to be excused from having to get a Special 
> Use Permit, which is required for a restaurant  over 3500 gross sq. ft.
>  They are also requesting to be excused from having to provide an 
> additional 6 parking spaces. They propose adding none.
>
> If you, too, are tired of the spreading land grab that India has been 
> doing for years, come to the *Zoning Board hearing* about this.
> First Floor Conference Room at the Mayor Joseph A. Doorley Municipal 
> Building located at *444 Westminster Street*, Providence.
>                This is scheduled for *Wednesday, September 16*, 2015 
> at *5:30
> PM*
>
> *The camel's nose, front feet, and stomach are already in the tent.*
>
>
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Thank You,
Michael McGlynn
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 20:23:49 -0400
From: "Peter Gallant" <Pete1188 at cox.net>
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Subject: [Summit] Play dates + activities for a 7-year-old girl?
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Hi all,

My girflfriend's daughter is still getting to know our neighborhood, and I
was hoping there were others on here who have girls of similar age (7 . .. 8
in October) who may be up for play dates? Also, aside from the Festival
Ballet, which she tried last year, can any one recommend any good
activities/clubs/resources for her to hang out at or try? We've gone to
Lippett Park but she's always afraid of the dogs. 

Thanks,
Pete
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