[Summit] Fwd: Urgent: Immediate threat to East Side property taxes and home values

Christopher Buecheler cwbuecheler at gmail.com
Mon Jun 10 12:34:26 CDT 2019


Just a note: I agree completely with Paul that whether or not these tax
changes are a good idea (and I don't know if they are because I don't have
any data), forcing them through without thorough public vetting is a huge
problem. Since moving to RI in 2011, my wife and I have become very active
in local politics - we really love this state and want it to be the best it
can be! One thing that's consistently horrified us is how much backroom
dealing remains the standard at the local and state level (hello, Speaker
Mattiello). It's an unacceptable approach in an era when the tools exist to
provide voters with any data they might be interested in.

I'm all about transparency, information, and data. I want open politics,
open lawmaking, etc. And I'm all for open discussion as well. I just wish
when people make blanket statements like "we're being burdened" they
provided data to support that belief. The gut feeling that one pays too
much in taxes isn't really enough, considering that historically just about
everyone has that gut feeling no matter how much or little they make.

-Chris



On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 11:44 AM Paul G Smith <paul.slvrwngs at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you Chris. I share the same question. "Unfair" or "undue" is often
> in the eyes of the beholder. People with more should pay more. That is what
> seems fair to me. Further, there needs to be a recognition that tax policy
> affects the capacity of many people to afford living in their homes (or
> rentals) or not, as prices and taxes begin to take their toll on those of
> considerably less means than those fortunate enough to be able to afford
> living on the east side.
>
>
>
> That being said, any changes of significance to any policy should be
> openly discussed through a public process, with participation of as many
> interested citizens as possible. If this is being rammed through without
> adequate discussion (as is implied in this notice), then the process itself
> is not exactly open or fair. Unfortunately, we do see an awful lot of
> behind the scenes decisions and political power plays at both the local and
> state levels on all kinds of issues.
>
>
>
> As to services, I am relatively sure that almost anywhere in the city,
> people would consider that services are far from adequate. To complain
> about them on the east side in particular seems somewhat insular to me.
>
>
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> - Paul
>
> *Paul G Smith*
> 54 Summit Ave, Providence, RI  02906
> Cell: 802-343-0978
> E-mail: paul.slvrwngs at gmail.com
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> *From:* Summit [mailto:summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us] *On Behalf Of
> *Christopher Buecheler
> *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2019 11:10 AM
> *To:* Neighborhood Association
> *Subject:* Re: [Summit] Fwd: Urgent: Immediate threat to East Side
> property taxes and home values
>
>
>
> "We already share a huge portion of the tax burden and get mediocre
> services in return"
>
>
>
> So, I'll buy the mediocre services part, given that I've been asking for
> sidewalk repairs for six years and still haven't seen any ... but do we
> have any evidence that the east side bears proportionally more of the tax
> burden than anywhere else? I mean, I'm sure people in Blackstone pay more
> in *total *than a lot of other neighborhoods, because many of them own
> $1.5+ million homes, but simply paying more on larger and more extravagant
> properties is not really sharing a larger portion of the tax burden than
> those who pay less on smaller properties.
>
>
>
> Are there data that suggest that the east side bears an undue tax burden
> in comparison to other parts of the city?
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:37 AM Michael McGlynn <mmcglynn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> In case you haven’t seen this.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Cheryl Simmons* <cherylsimmons414.aol.com at mail.mailchimpapp.com>
> Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 7:34 PM
> Subject: Urgent: Immediate threat to East Side property taxes and home
> values
> To: <mmcglynn at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> *Resident alert regarding serious issue which could impact East Side
> property taxes and home values:*
>
> We have learned that Councilman John Igliozzi (Chair of the Finance
> Committee from Silver Lake) is working on a dramatic change to property
> taxes to slip into the budget at the list minute that will have a *major* impact
> on East Side property taxes.
>
> You may have read that properties values in the recent revaluation
> increased more dramatically (by percentage) in places other than the East
> Side. As a result of the 4% overall property tax cap, property taxes are
> going up elsewhere in the city faster than the East Side this year.
>
> In an attempt to cut taxes for their constituents and to stick it to the
> East Side, there is a move to go back to the old system of one rate and a
> homestead exemption. However, they are planning on phasing out the
> homestead exemption based on a houses value. While the details are still
> secret, this is how we hear it will work:
>
> The current *proposed* owner-occupied rate is $15.35. Under this new
> plan, the rate would be something like $30.70, but owner occupants would
> get a 50% discount (aka homestead exemption). However, they are now
> proposing to make that exemption variable based on house value, so, for
> example, the exemption could work like this:
>
> House Value                       Exemption
>
> $0 – 250,000                       50%
>
> $250,000 – 500,000         40%
>
> $500,000 – 750,000         30%
>
> 750,000 – 1,000,000        20%
>
> $1,000,000 +                      10%
>
> The City law department is supposedly researching this but can’t say that
> it's illegal. The Mayor is apparently undecided on whether he supports the
> plan or not. Council President Sabina Matos is apparently going along with
> it.  Our East Side council people know. Helen Anthony and Seth Yurdin are
> opposed. Nirva LaFortune is said to be for it.
>
> We need to activate the East Side immediately. The budget must be
> approved by July 1, but could be passed anytime.
>
> *We need all our neighbors to call the folks below and let their voices be
> heard. Enough is enough. We already share a huge portion of the tax burden
> and get mediocre services in return. Were this to pass we would see an
> immediate negative impact on our property values.*
>
> Mayor Elorza’s Office – 401-421-2489
>
> City Council’s Office – 401-521-7477
>
> Council President Sabina Matos (Olneyville, Silver Lake, Valley) –
> 401-400-1315
>
> Councilman Seth Yurdin (Fox Point) – 401-484-7207
>
> Councilwoman Helen Anthony (College Hill, Blackstone, Wayland) – does not
> publish her phone, but email is helen at helenanthony.com
>
> Councilwoman Nirva LaFortune (Blackstone, Summit, Mount Hope) –
> 401-680-0252
>
>
>
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