[Summit] Speed bumps redux

Fri Jun 11 15:24:05 UTC 2021

Nor do many drivers pay any attention to the posted speed limit of 25 mph.
I obey it, even on the miscalled "thoroughfares" like Hope St and
Blackstone Ave, and I almost always pick up long tails of frustrated
drivers who want to go faster.  (I do pull over when the tail grows too
long and there is a convenient place, so as to let them pass me.  But
really, folks!)

Bob M

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 10:19 AM Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
wrote:

> many drivers pay no attention whatsoever to pedestrians at crosswalks.
> Bumps make me feel safer. greg gerritt
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Denise Guad dguad27 at gmail.com
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> Sent: Jun 11, 2021 8:29 AM
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> To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
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> Cc: summit summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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> Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed bumps redux
> Here is what Dave put at the end of his article:
>
> *"There is a class of misguided residents who apparently support speed
> bumps, presumably in the mistaken opinion that it will make them or their
> children safer. That is unlikely. What it will do is to punish the innocent
> for the sins of the guilty. However effective, that is wrong. The proper
> and more effective response to speeding is an officer of the law handing
> out tickets, and if that doesn’t work, hike the fine two or three hundred
> percent. A ticket or two that makes news will stop speeding in its tracks,
> or most of it – and, as a bonus, punish only the sins of the guilty,
> leaving the innocent alone. The best form of traffic calming is a cop."*
>
> But remember when all those guilty folk got their panties in a twist when
> they got "unexpected" tickets for speeding in school zones when those
> cameras were installed?
> I would be OK with more speed cameras. But the current situation of people
> speeding in the neighborhood is unexpectable. There are definitely more
> drivers who are guilty of not stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks than
> there are drivers who comply with this law.
>
> Misguided or not, I absolutely feel safer crossing Rochambeau at Summit
> now, than I did before the bumps.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 5:04 PM Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So, other than the lovely new art deco road tattoos, I take it the city
>> is unmoved?
>>
>> This piece by neighbor David Brussat has some interesting history—that
>> speed bumps once proposed for Blackstone Boulevard were nixed. This would
>> imply that residents were actually consulted.
>>
>>
>> https://architecturehereandthere.com/2021/06/09/get-rid-of-all-speed-bumps/comment-page-1/
>>
>>
>> Emlyn
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:44 AM Read Porter <read.d.porter at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> as a frequent crosser of rochambeau by foot i have found that yes, it is
>>> that dangerous. these lumps are a massive help. they have slowed speeds
>>> dramatically and it's not as scary as it was previously.
>>>
>>> it does seem to me that additional stop signs, curb extensions, and
>>> neckdowns would be helpful in speed reductions and safety generally, but
>>> this intervention does seem to be improving on the status quo.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:10 AM Kim Clark <ktcxyz at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> agree, i’d rather see the potholes fixed than these horrible lumps and
>>>> their accompanying sign pollution.
>>>>
>>>> these don’t slow traffic, they stop traffic and/or cause people to
>>>> swerve to avoid, they’re so big and so obnoxious i think they are most
>>>> likely to cause road rage. Eventually, people will just use side streets to
>>>> avoid.
>>>>
>>>> Is Rochambeau really that dangerous?
>>>>
>>>> what a waste of money! And such an unnecessary nuisance.
>>>>
>>>> kim on dex
>>>>
>>>>                     *Kim T. Clark*
>>>>          www.RHODYCRAFT.com
>>>>               769 HOPE STREET
>>>>           PROVIDENCE, RI 02906
>>>>                     401.626.1833
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>>>> On May 17, 2021, at 4:41 PM, Martha Fraenkel <mfraenkel at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Re Chris' comment about funding the lumps,  i hope this is not a
>>>> rhetorical question.  who/what/when/why?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2021 4:26 PM, Sumati Eberstadt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes to all of that, Christopher.
>>>>
>>>> Sumati
>>>>
>>>> On May 17, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Christopher Buecheler <
>>>> cwbuecheler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm just curious why there's enough budget to add obviously slapdash,
>>>> ill-conceived and dangerous speed bumps all over the town when nobody
>>>> except Blackstone Blvd's gotten a sidewalk repair in over a decade, and the
>>>> only time since I moved to this neighborhood that any streets have been
>>>> resurfaced was when Providence Water was legally obligated to do it. I'd
>>>> much rather see money spent on maintenance, dedicated bike lanes, and
>>>> enforcing things like "it's illegal to park halfway up on the sidewalk
>>>> outside of Bank of America because you're too lazy to use the parking lot
>>>> twelve feet away, or in the no parking zone out front of Seven Stars
>>>> because you're too lazy to find legal street parking, thus creating a
>>>> dangerous visibility situation that threatens pedestrians, motorists, and
>>>> cyclists alike."
>>>>
>>>> Far as functionality goes, I assume the speed bumps will just join the
>>>> Big Brother machines on Blackstone in causing people to speed, then slam on
>>>> their breaks, then slam on the gas to get back to speeding.
>>>>
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:30 PM Martha Fraenkel <mfraenkel at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hope everyone is sending their speed bump trauma to nirva.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to me they're a design failure; you have to virtually stop to
>>>>> get over them without bottoming out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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