[Summit] speed bumps
Elizabeth Grossman
eggbdk at gmail.com
Mon May 17 17:08:12 UTC 2021
Omg I took the Smithfield Ave exit off 95 N this AM for the first time in 10 days. Those black asphalt cushion speed bumps are really scary . I didn’t anticipate the first set : WHAM! I crawled over the second, positioning my car to straddle the edge of 2 of them. Awful experience
And they are ugly also
Elizabeth
130 8th St
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 17, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Amy Ewen <amy.ewen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that normal speed bumps are a great idea, but these don't seem to be well designed or thought out. One of the sets of bumps on Rochambeau is in the middle of the intersection to turn onto summit ave. I too have seen folks swerve into the oncoming lane to avoid them. They seem to work best when they are across both lanes in the same spot.
>
> I also wonder about the ambulances. I live on 10th street, and people race up this street (and right through the stop signs) and the word is that we were told that we couldn't have speed bumps because of the ambulances, but if that's the case, there are a lot of street that shouldn't have them.
>
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>> 3. Re: Speed Bumps (Ethan Gyles)
>> 4. Summit ass'n meeting Mon night + Councillor Nirva LaFortune
>> on recent gun violence (David Kolsky)
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>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 15:36:42 -0400
>> From: Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> To: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Summit List <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> I agree. I drove home via W River street today where there have been speed
>> bumps installed for several years (behind the USPS facility); they're
>> markedly lower and easier to drive over.
>>
>> I don't know how these came to be installed so suddenly (are neighborhoods
>> generally consulted first?) and why they appear to be so poorly
>> constructed. Apparently they're not cheap either.
>>
>>
>> Emlyn
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 5:37 PM John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I think the speed bumps are terrible. Years ago, I helped bring curb
>> > extensions to the neighborhood for the same purpose: to reduce speeding and
>> > making our streets more pedestrian-friendly. We looked at speed bumps back
>> > then, and there were strong emotions for and against. One thing I learned
>> > was that there are good bumps and bad bumps. Good bumps, as I understand
>> > it, are wide and parabolic. At low speeds, they are easy to drive over and
>> > plows handle them easily. Bad bumps are unpleasant at any speed and
>> > impossible for plows. The good ones are more expensive and take more
>> > planning. An example of the good ones are in Kennedy plaza.
>> >
>> > As I drove up Rochambeau today, the guy behind me swerved into the
>> > opposing lane to avoid them.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On 5/15/21 2:18 PM, Emlyn Addison wrote:
>> > > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island hospital,
>> > and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps on Dyer
>> > street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
>> > >
>> > > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to Hope/Mad
>> > Max Street.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk <art at norwalkcom.com <mailto:
>> > art at norwalkcom.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope
>> > St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> > >
>> > > -- Art
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <
>> > noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a
>> > hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street
>> > which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here
>> > have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in
>> > crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street
>> > would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a
>> > cruising strip?
>> > >
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably
>> > create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a
>> > residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <
>> > jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> > neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue
>> > in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there
>> > are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep
>> > harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> > people who may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> > wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > >
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been
>> > seen by all those interested:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> Twice now I've been nearly hit while in the crosswalk, walking across Rochambeau on the west side of Hope Street. Cars come flying down Hope Street and barely pause while making a quick turn on the way down to North Main. I guess they're thinking "Hey, I can miss her with inches to spare!" And so far they have -- but it's pretty nerve-wracking. And what if they're not the precision drivers that they think they are? Not a lot a pedestrian can do if they come up from behind when you're already in the crosswalk.
>>
>> So in short, I'm all in favor of slowing down the traffic. And the existing traffic calming measures don't seem to be enough. But I also drive around the neighborhood, and worry about snowplows, etc. Any way we can get them to go with more traditional speed bumps?
>>
>> Kate Sanders
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>> > 1. Speed Bumps (James Kelley)
>> > 2. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > 3. Re: Speed Bumps (Robert Mathiesen)
>> > 4. Re: Speed Bumps (Greg Gerritt)
>> > 5. Re: Speed Bumps (Greg Gerritt)
>> > 6. Re: Speed Bumps (Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur)
>> > 7. Re: Speed Bumps (Jacqui Ketner)
>> > 8. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > 9. Re: Speed Bumps (Art Norwalk)
>> > 10. Re: Speed Bumps (Jacqui Ketner)
>> > 11. Re: Speed Bumps (James Barfoot)
>> > 12. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > 13. Re: Speed Bumps (Greg Gerritt)
>> > 14. Re: Speed Bumps (Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur)
>> > 15. Re: Speed Bumps (John Bazik)
>> > 16. Monthly meeting this Monday, May 17th at 7:00 pm
>> > (Sharon Lee Waldman)
>> >
>> > 17. Re: Speed Bumps (Michael McGlynn)
>> >
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 12:34:20 -0400
>> > From: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > To: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> >
>> > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those
>> > interested:
>> >
>> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 12:56:04 -0400
>> > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance,
>> >
>> > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which,
>> > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have
>> > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks,
>> > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce
>> > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> >
>> > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more
>> > noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban
>> > neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> >
>> > Emlyn Addison
>> > 8th Street
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all
>> > > those interested:
>> > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > >
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:29:36 -0400
>> > From: Robert Mathiesen rmath13 at gmail.com
>> > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > Cc: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com, Summit Neighborhood
>> >
>> > e-mail <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > I'm going to risk becoming very unpopular now, but what I'd really like to
>> > see is alternating stop signs at every second intersection throughout the
>> > entire city, so that no one can travel more than two blocks on any street
>> > without having to come to a full stop. That would put a decisive end to
>> > the idea that any street can be regarded as a thoroughfare. -- Yeah, I
>> > know that would never fly in Providence; but a guy can dream, can't he? --
>> > Bob M
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 1:05 PM Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance,
>> > > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which,
>> > > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have
>> > > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks,
>> > > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce
>> > > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more
>> > > noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban
>> > > neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > > > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all
>> > > > those interested:
>> > > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > > >
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:36:59 -0400
>> > From: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com
>> > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com, James Kelley
>> >
>> > <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID: 02CB0059-D240-4B7E-88A6-5302374553C4 at mindspring.com
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>> > As a pedestrian, I love them.? Greg ?6th st
>> >
>> > From: Summit summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us on behalf of Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM
>> > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> >
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> >
>> > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> >
>> > Emlyn Addison
>> >
>> > 8th Street
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> >
>> > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> >
>> > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> >
>> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> >
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>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:39:22 -0400
>> > From: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com
>> > To: Robert Mathiesen rmath13 at gmail.com, Emlyn Addison
>> >
>> > <noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID: EACF9878-EF27-4D95-B6CA-555B6CF3EF78 at mindspring.com
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>> > If all the vehicles were electric and charged via wires in the roads, the cars could be governed by only allocating enough power for safe speeds.? Or some other out of the box thinking?? greg
>> >
>> > From: Summit summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us on behalf of Robert Mathiesen rmath13 at gmail.com
>> > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 1:29 PM
>> > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> >
>> > I'm going to risk becoming very unpopular now, but what I'd really like to see is alternating stop signs at every second intersection throughout the entire city, so that no one can travel more than two blocks on any street without having to come to a full stop. That would put a decisive end to the idea that any street can be regarded as a thoroughfare. -- Yeah, I know that would never fly in Providence; but a guy can dream, can't he? -- Bob M
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 1:05 PM Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> >
>> > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> >
>> > Emlyn Addison
>> >
>> > 8th Street
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> >
>> > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> >
>> > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> >
>> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> >
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:42:27 -0400
>> > From: Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com
>> > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com, James Kelley
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>> >
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID: 60a00802.1c69fb81.c9dfe.f5b4 at mx.google.com
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>> > Raised crosswalks and actual speed bumps are tolerable. These lumpy monstrosities are not. Even under 5 mph they are horribly jarring bc you go over at different elevations with different wheels. I don't understand why they couldn't just put in normal regular bumps.--MMLAmmlarthur at gmail.com?
>> > -------- Original message --------From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com Date: 5/15/21 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.Emlyn Addison8th StreetOn Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:00:49 -0400
>> > From: Jacqui Ketner jacqui at akutech.com
>> > To: Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com
>> > Cc: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com, James Kelley
>> >
>> > <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>, Summit Neighborhood e-mail
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>> > <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > I worry that these monstrosities will send more traffic roaring through the side streets to avoid the bumps.
>> > Jacqui
>> >
>> > > On May 15, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com wrote:
>> > > Raised crosswalks and actual speed bumps are tolerable. These lumpy monstrosities are not. Even under 5 mph they are horribly jarring bc you go over at different elevations with different wheels. I don't understand why they couldn't just put in normal regular bumps.
>> > > --MMLA
>> > > mmlarthur at gmail.com
>> > > -------- Original message --------
>> > > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > > Date: 5/15/21 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> > > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > Message: 8
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:02:40 -0400
>> > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > To: Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com
>> > Cc: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com, Summit Neighborhood
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>> > e-mail <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID:
>> > CAEAT3MFQGy1_gmOOm2BRcOoH6toyLz3fejJAzQhgDkL+Cvu+tQ at mail.gmail.com
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>> > Yeah I wondered about that; these seem taller.
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 1:42 PM Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur <
>> > mmlarthur at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Raised crosswalks and actual speed bumps are tolerable. These lumpy
>> > > monstrosities are not. Even under 5 mph they are horribly jarring bc you go
>> > > over at different elevations with different wheels. I don't understand why
>> > > they couldn't just put in normal regular bumps.
>> > > --MMLA
>> > > mmlarthur at gmail.com
>> > > -------- Original message --------
>> > > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > > Date: 5/15/21 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> > > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance,
>> > > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which,
>> > > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have
>> > > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks,
>> > > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce
>> > > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more
>> > > noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban
>> > > neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > > > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all
>> > > > those interested:
>> > > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > > >
>> > > > Summit mailing list
>> > > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > Message: 9
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:05:47 -0400
>> > From: Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com
>> > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > Cc: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com, Summit Neighborhood
>> >
>> > e-mail <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from
>> > RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> >
>> > -- Art
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance,
>> > > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which,
>> > > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have
>> > > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks,
>> > > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce
>> > > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more
>> > > noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban
>> > > neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > > > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all
>> > > > those interested:
>> > > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > > >
>> > > > Summit mailing list
>> > > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/
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>> > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > Message: 10
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:08:58 -0400
>> > From: Jacqui Ketner jacqui at akutech.com
>> > To: Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com
>> > Cc: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com, Summit Neighborhood e-mail
>> >
>> > <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > And, I worry about snow plowing. How are they going to do Rochambeau hill with those bumps there?
>> > JK
>> >
>> > > On May 15, 2021, at 2:05 PM, Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com wrote:
>> > > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> > > -- Art
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > >
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>> > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us mailto:Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/ http://sna.providence.ri.us/
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>> > > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/ http://sna.providence.ri.us/
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>> > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > Message: 11
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:13:28 -0400
>> > From: James Barfoot barfootjim at gmail.com
>> > To: Jacqui Ketner jacqui at akutech.com
>> > Cc: Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com, "summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> >
>> > Neighborhood" <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID: 2316355D-E3B9-4D5C-8D51-4E8CCC12032D at gmail.com
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>> > How about retractible speed bumps activated by special transmitters in buses, emergency vehicles, etc.?
>> >
>> > > On May 15, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Jacqui Ketner jacqui at akutech.com wrote:
>> > > And, I worry about snow plowing. How are they going to do Rochambeau hill with those bumps there?
>> > > JK
>> > >
>> > > > On May 15, 2021, at 2:05 PM, Art Norwalk <art at norwalkcom.com mailto:art at norwalkcom.com> wrote:
>> > > > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> > > > -- Art
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > > 8th Street
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> > > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > > >
>> > > > Summit mailing list
>> > > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us mailto:Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/ http://sna.providence.ri.us/
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>> > > > Summit mailing list
>> > > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us mailto:Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > > > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/ http://sna.providence.ri.us/
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>> > > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > Message: 12
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:18:29 -0400
>> > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > To: Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com
>> > Cc: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com, Summit Neighborhood
>> >
>> > e-mail <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID:
>> > CAEAT3MGKZUFkm8TYpCAJEaW76AFzH8AZEKuNfn6B-x70fzxaFg at mail.gmail.com
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>> > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island hospital,
>> > and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps on Dyer
>> > street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
>> >
>> > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to Hope/Mad Max
>> > Street.
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from
>> > > RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> > > -- Art
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance,
>> > > > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which,
>> > > > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have
>> > > > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks,
>> > > > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce
>> > > > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create
>> > > > more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential
>> > > > urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > > 8th Street
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > > > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > > > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > > > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > > > > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > > > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all
>> > > > > those interested:
>> > > > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Summit mailing list
>> > > > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > > SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/
>> > > >
>> > > > Summit mailing list
>> > > > Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > > > http://sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > Message: 13
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 15:14:38 -0400
>> > From: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com
>> > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com, Art Norwalk
>> >
>> > <art at norwalkcom.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID: DF283568-47DE-48CD-A9BB-64CB6ED40CFE at mindspring.com
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>> > I went to the hearing about the speed bump in front of the statehouse years ago.? Someone complained it would hurt emergency services.? Fire Department testified said it was not a problem.? greg
>> >
>> > From: Summit summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us on behalf of Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
>> > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:18 PM
>> > To: Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island hospital, and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps on Dyer street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
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>> > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to Hope/Mad Max Street.
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>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk art at norwalkcom.com wrote:
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>> > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> >
>> > -- Art
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com wrote:
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>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> >
>> > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> >
>> > Emlyn Addison
>> >
>> > 8th Street
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com wrote:
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>> > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> >
>> > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
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>> > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> >
>> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 17:31:55 -0400
>> > From: Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com
>> > To: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com, Emlyn Addison
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>> > <noisyblocks at gmail.com>, James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
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>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > As a pedestrian, I'd far rather have raised crosswalks like on Smith St.--MMLAmmlarthur at gmail.com?
>> > -------- Original message --------From: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com Date: 5/15/21 2:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com, James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps As a pedestrian, I love them.? Greg ?6th st?From: Summit summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us on behalf of Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.comDate: Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PMTo: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.comCc: Summit Neighborhood summit at sna.providence.ri.usSubject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps?From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and
>> > deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip??Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.??Emlyn Addison8th Street??On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com wrote:Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.?Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:?https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-o
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>> > Message: 15
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 17:36:11 -0400
>> > From: John Bazik jbazik at gmail.com
>> > To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > I think the speed bumps are terrible. Years ago, I helped bring curb extensions to the neighborhood for the same purpose: to reduce speeding and making our streets more pedestrian-friendly. We looked at speed bumps back then, and there were strong emotions for and against. One thing I learned was that there are good bumps and bad bumps. Good bumps, as I understand it, are wide and parabolic. At low speeds, they are easy to drive over and plows handle them easily. Bad bumps are unpleasant at any speed and impossible for plows. The good ones are more expensive and take more planning. An example of the good ones are in Kennedy plaza.
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>> > As I drove up Rochambeau today, the guy behind me swerved into the opposing lane to avoid them.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On 5/15/21 2:18 PM, Emlyn Addison wrote:
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>> > > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island hospital, and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps on Dyer street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
>> > > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to Hope/Mad Max Street.
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk <art at norwalkcom.com mailto:art at norwalkcom.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> > >
>> > > -- Art
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> > >
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > >
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> > >
>> > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan <https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan>
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>> > Message: 16
>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 20:30:29 -0400
>> > From: Sharon Lee Waldman slwaldman1 at gmail.com
>> > To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: [Summit] Monthly meeting this Monday, May 17th at 7:00 pm
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>> > Hi neighbors!
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>> > The Summit Neighborhood Association's monthly May meeting is this Monday
>> > 5/17/21 at 7pm! Please e-mail SNAProv at gmail.com for the Zoom link.
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>> > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 20:37:18 -0400
>> > From: Michael McGlynn mmcglynn at gmail.com
>> > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > The speed bumps are a sociology experiment to gauge the apathy of the
>> > Providence voter. So far, the results are heavily weight toward ?Can I get
>> > iced coffee delivered, and if so, how soon??.
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>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
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>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various
>> > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some
>> > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony
>> > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who
>> > > may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's
>> > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all
>> > > those interested:
>> > > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 19:19:40 -0400
>> From: Ethan Gyles <ethangy at gmail.com>
>> To: Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> Cc: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com>, Summit List
>> <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> There was no consultation with the neighborhood association and this is generally a surprise to me. I much prefer neckdowns to speed bumps. I understand some of the background on the notion of traffic calming on these streets was discussed at community meetings Councilor LaFortune hosted, though she noted on our Facebook group that she didn?t know the speed bumps were being deployed until she saw them. Her Facebook comments are below:
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>> ?Hi Ethan, I actually did not know the city was installing the speed bumps the until I saw them. We have talked about the speeding and traffic mitigation at many community meetings, where folks have asked aboug speed bumps. For the last three years the traffic engineer has been conducting speed counts/traffic studies throughout the ward. Many people have complained about the speeding on all the streets. It looks like the speed bumps were the recommendations from the traffic commission. All recommendations are align with safety protocols and include imput from public safety (fire, police EMS). I do wish we were given a heads up. I am getting more information. I too live on the corner of one of these streets And have watched cars, motorcycles speed from N. Main to hope. Parents and residents have complained about speeding on cemetery road, and MHCC is asking for speed bumps on Camp. I'll get more details about how the decision was made.....and ask for information to share.?
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>> > On May 16, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > I agree. I drove home via W River street today where there have been speed bumps installed for several years (behind the USPS facility); they're markedly lower and easier to drive over.
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>> > I don't know how these came to be installed so suddenly (are neighborhoods generally consulted first?) and why they appear to be so poorly constructed. Apparently they're not cheap either.
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>> > Emlyn
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>> >> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 5:37 PM John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I think the speed bumps are terrible. Years ago, I helped bring curb extensions to the neighborhood for the same purpose: to reduce speeding and making our streets more pedestrian-friendly. We looked at speed bumps back then, and there were strong emotions for and against. One thing I learned was that there are good bumps and bad bumps. Good bumps, as I understand it, are wide and parabolic. At low speeds, they are easy to drive over and plows handle them easily. Bad bumps are unpleasant at any speed and impossible for plows. The good ones are more expensive and take more planning. An example of the good ones are in Kennedy plaza.
>> >>
>> >> As I drove up Rochambeau today, the guy behind me swerved into the opposing lane to avoid them.
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On 5/15/21 2:18 PM, Emlyn Addison wrote:
>> >> > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island hospital, and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps on Dyer street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
>> >> >
>> >> > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to Hope/Mad Max Street.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk <art at norwalkcom.com <mailto:art at norwalkcom.com>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Art
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
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>> >> > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> >> >
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>> >> > Emlyn Addison
>> >> > 8th Street
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> >> > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan <https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan>
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>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 00:11:43 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: David Kolsky <davidjkolsky at yahoo.com>
>> To: Summit List <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>, "Wayland Sq. Prov. Io
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>> Subject: [Summit] Summit ass'n meeting Mon night + Councillor Nirva
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>> Hi neighbors!
>> The Summit Neighborhood Association's monthly May meeting is this Monday 5/17/21 at 7pm! Please e-mail SNAProv at gmail.com for the Zoom link.
>> Sharon Lee Waldman
>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Nirva LaFortune <nirvaward3 at gmail.com>Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021, 09:20:00 AM EDT
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>> Next month will mark sixteen years since my dear friend, my partner, the person I loved in life was cut short by gun violence as he walked out of a bodega in New York City. He was mistakenly struck by a bullet intended for someone standing outside the store. Our lives were changed forever by a needless act of violence.?
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>> For three consecutive days, our city has experienced a rash of violence. Yesterday's incident took place on Camp Street in front of Billy Taylor Park, a neighborhood park where my daughter plays and where I?ve hosted various events to bring the community together.
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>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 23:05:54 -0400
>> From: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> Here's some more information about speed bumps, humps, tables and other calming measures from the US Dept of Transportation:
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>> https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/speedmgt/ePrimer_modules/module3pt2.cfm#mod310
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>> DOT guidelines say humps/lumps are recommended only for local roads <= 30 mph, and are "typically" 12' in length and 3" high. In its RFP, Providence specified lumps 7' in length and 3" high with 2' ramps (1:8 slope):
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>> http://www.providenceri.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/pvd20-117-CITYWIDE-SPEED-LUMPS-AND-RAISED-CROSSWALKS.pdf
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>> Those are pretty severe.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 5/16/21 7:19 PM, Ethan Gyles wrote:
>> > There was no consultation with the neighborhood association and this is generally a surprise to me. I much prefer neckdowns to speed bumps. I understand some of the background on the notion of traffic calming on these streets was discussed at community meetings Councilor LaFortune hosted, though she noted on our Facebook group that she didn?t know the speed bumps were being deployed until she saw them. Her Facebook comments are below:
>> >
>> > ?Hi Ethan, I actually did not know the city was installing the speed bumps the until I saw them. We have ?talked about the speeding and traffic mitigation at many community meetings, where folks have asked aboug speed bumps. For the last three years the traffic engineer has been conducting speed counts/traffic studies throughout the ward. Many people have complained about the speeding on all the streets. It looks like the speed bumps were the recommendations from the traffic commission. All recommendations are align with safety protocols and include imput from public safety (fire, police EMS). I do wish we were given a heads up. I am getting more information. I too live on the corner of one of these streets And have watched cars, motorcycles speed from N. Main to hope. Parents and residents have complained about speeding on cemetery road, and MHCC is asking for speed bumps on Camp. I'll get more details about how the decision was made.....and ask for information to share.?
>> >
>> >> On May 16, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ?
>> >> I agree. I drove home via W River street today where there have been speed bumps installed for several years (behind the USPS facility); they're markedly lower and easier to drive over.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know how these came to be installed so suddenly (are?neighborhoods generally consulted first?) and why they appear to be so poorly constructed. Apparently they're not cheap either.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Emlyn
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 5:37 PM John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com <mailto:jbazik at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think the speed bumps are terrible.? Years ago, I helped bring curb extensions to the neighborhood for the same purpose: to reduce speeding and making our streets more pedestrian-friendly.? We looked at speed bumps back then, and there were strong emotions for and against.? One thing I learned was that there are good bumps and bad bumps.? Good bumps, as I understand it, are wide and parabolic.? At low speeds, they are easy to drive over and plows handle them easily.? Bad bumps are unpleasant at any speed and impossible for plows.? The good ones are more expensive and take more planning.? An example of the good ones are in Kennedy plaza.
>> >>
>> >> As I drove up Rochambeau today, the guy behind me swerved into the opposing lane to avoid them.
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On 5/15/21 2:18 PM, Emlyn Addison wrote:
>> >> > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island hospital, and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps on Dyer street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
>> >> >
>> >> > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to Hope/Mad Max Street.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk <art at norwalkcom.com <mailto:art at norwalkcom.com> <mailto:art at norwalkcom.com <mailto:art at norwalkcom.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ?I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps on Hope St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ?-- Art
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ?On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ? ? ? From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ? ? ?Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ? ? ?Emlyn Addison
>> >> >? ? ? ? ?8th Street
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ? ? ?On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ? ? ? ? ?Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our neighborhood?
>> >> >? ? ? ? ? ? ?I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for people who may not have seen the other communications and might be wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> >> >
>> >> >? ? ? ? ? ? ?Here is a small background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan <https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan> <https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan <https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan>>
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