[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 194, Issue 12
Emlyn Addison
noisyblocks at gmail.com
Tue May 18 09:36:07 UTC 2021
What is an actionable next step? Neighbors signing an SNA letter to the
mayor's office?
If these speed bumps looked like the ones on W River Street, there'd be few
complaints about them. This was not done properly.
Emlyn
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 9:09 PM Ethan Gyles <ethangy at gmail.com> wrote:
> They will certainly be temporary after the first plowing.... if neighbors
> enjoying a gentle first snowfall hear a startling boom it may be the sound
> of steel sheering off a mound of asphalt at 25mph.
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:54 PM John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe the idea behind lumps/cushions is that emergency vehicles can
>> avoid them by driving down the centerline. Also, note that 2/3 of the
>> lumps the city has put down are designated "temporary" and will be removed
>> before winter. I saw that mentioned on channel 6's website.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 5/17/21 12:58 PM, Amy Ewen wrote:
>> > I agree that normal speed bumps are a great idea, but these don't seem
>> to be well designed or thought out. One of the sets of bumps on Rochambeau
>> is in the middle of the intersection to turn onto summit ave. I too have
>> seen folks swerve into the oncoming lane to avoid them. They seem to work
>> best when they are across both lanes in the same spot.
>> >
>> > I also wonder about the ambulances. I live on 10th street, and people
>> race up this street (and right through the stop signs) and the word is that
>> we were told that we couldn't have speed bumps because of the ambulances,
>> but if that's the case, there are a lot of street that shouldn't have them.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 12:08 PM <summit-request at sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > 1. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > 2. Re: Summit Digest, Vol 194, Issue 11 (Kate Sanders)
>> > 3. Re: Speed Bumps (Ethan Gyles)
>> > 4. Summit ass'n meeting Mon night + Councillor Nirva LaFortune
>> > on recent gun violence (David Kolsky)
>> > 5. Re: Speed Bumps (John Bazik)
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 15:36:42 -0400
>> > From: Emlyn Addison <noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>>
>> > To: John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com <mailto:jbazik at gmail.com>>
>> > Cc: Summit List <summit at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
>> summit at sna.providence.ri.us>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > I agree. I drove home via W River street today where there have
>> been speed
>> > bumps installed for several years (behind the USPS facility);
>> they're
>> > markedly lower and easier to drive over.
>> >
>> > I don't know how these came to be installed so suddenly (are
>> neighborhoods
>> > generally consulted first?) and why they appear to be so poorly
>> > constructed. Apparently they're not cheap either.
>> >
>> >
>> > Emlyn
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 5:37 PM John Bazik <jbazik at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jbazik at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think the speed bumps are terrible. Years ago, I helped bring
>> curb
>> > > extensions to the neighborhood for the same purpose: to reduce
>> speeding and
>> > > making our streets more pedestrian-friendly. We looked at speed
>> bumps back
>> > > then, and there were strong emotions for and against. One thing
>> I learned
>> > > was that there are good bumps and bad bumps. Good bumps, as I
>> understand
>> > > it, are wide and parabolic. At low speeds, they are easy to
>> drive over and
>> > > plows handle them easily. Bad bumps are unpleasant at any speed
>> and
>> > > impossible for plows. The good ones are more expensive and take
>> more
>> > > planning. An example of the good ones are in Kennedy plaza.
>> > >
>> > > As I drove up Rochambeau today, the guy behind me swerved into
>> the
>> > > opposing lane to avoid them.
>> > >
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > > On 5/15/21 2:18 PM, Emlyn Addison wrote:
>> > > > I thought the same thing but my wife who works at Rhode Island
>> hospital,
>> > > and who commutes that way daily, says that they have speed bumps
>> on Dyer
>> > > street, which is heavily trafficked by ambulances and buses.
>> > > >
>> > > > So I'm not convinced this wouldn't be a possible solution to
>> Hope/Mad
>> > > Max Street.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021, 2:05 PM Art Norwalk <art at norwalkcom.com
>> <mailto:art at norwalkcom.com> <mailto:
>> > > art at norwalkcom.com <mailto:art at norwalkcom.com>>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > I suspect there would be strong objections to speed bumps
>> on Hope
>> > > St. from RIPTA and the rescue services.
>> > > >
>> > > > -- Art
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM Emlyn Addison <
>> > > noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and
>> aren't a
>> > > hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for
>> Hope street
>> > > which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that
>> many here
>> > > have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for
>> pedestrians in
>> > > crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on
>> Hope street
>> > > would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from
>> using it as a
>> > > cruising strip?
>> > > >
>> > > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and
>> arguably
>> > > create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but
>> in a
>> > > residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth
>> weighing.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > > 8th Street
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <
>> > > jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps
>> in our
>> > > neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much
>> dialogue
>> > > in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems
>> that there
>> > > are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be
>> resolved to keep
>> > > harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive
>> place for
>> > > people who may not have seen the other communications and might
>> be
>> > > wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > >
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not
>> have been
>> > > seen by all those interested:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> >
>> > > <
>> > >
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>> > Twice now I've been nearly hit while in the crosswalk, walking
>> across Rochambeau on the west side of Hope Street. Cars come flying down
>> Hope Street and barely pause while making a quick turn on the way down to
>> North Main. I guess they're thinking "Hey, I can miss her with inches to
>> spare!" And so far they have -- but it's pretty nerve-wracking. And what if
>> they're not the precision drivers that they think they are? Not a lot a
>> pedestrian can do if they come up from behind when you're already in the
>> crosswalk.
>> >
>> > So in short, I'm all in favor of slowing down the traffic. And the
>> existing traffic calming measures don't seem to be enough. But I also drive
>> around the neighborhood, and worry about snowplows, etc. Any way we can get
>> them to go with more traditional speed bumps?
>> >
>> > Kate Sanders
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>> > > 1. Speed Bumps (James Kelley)
>> > > 2. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > > 3. Re: Speed Bumps (Robert Mathiesen)
>> > > 4. Re: Speed Bumps (Greg Gerritt)
>> > > 5. Re: Speed Bumps (Greg Gerritt)
>> > > 6. Re: Speed Bumps (Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur)
>> > > 7. Re: Speed Bumps (Jacqui Ketner)
>> > > 8. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > > 9. Re: Speed Bumps (Art Norwalk)
>> > > 10. Re: Speed Bumps (Jacqui Ketner)
>> > > 11. Re: Speed Bumps (James Barfoot)
>> > > 12. Re: Speed Bumps (Emlyn Addison)
>> > > 13. Re: Speed Bumps (Greg Gerritt)
>> > > 14. Re: Speed Bumps (Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur)
>> > > 15. Re: Speed Bumps (John Bazik)
>> > > 16. Monthly meeting this Monday, May 17th at 7:00 pm
>> > > (Sharon Lee Waldman)
>> > >
>> > > 17. Re: Speed Bumps (Michael McGlynn)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Message: 1
>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 12:34:20 -0400
>> > > From: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> > > To: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> <mailto:summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> > > Subject: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> neighborhood?
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in
>> various
>> > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there
>> are some
>> > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to
>> keep harmony
>> > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> people who
>> > > may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's
>> > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > >
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen
>> by all those
>> > > interested:
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 12:56:04 -0400
>> > > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
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>> > > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
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>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a
>> hindrance,
>> > >
>> > > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street
>> which,
>> > > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many
>> here have
>> > > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in
>> crosswalks,
>> > > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street
>> would reduce
>> > > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a
>> cruising strip?
>> > >
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably
>> create more
>> > > noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a
>> residential urban
>> > > neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > >
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > 8th Street
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in
>> various
>> > > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that
>> there are some
>> > > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to
>> keep harmony
>> > > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> people who
>> > > > may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's
>> > > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen
>> by all
>> > > > those interested:
>> > > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> >
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>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:29:36 -0400
>> > > From: Robert Mathiesen rmath13 at gmail.com <mailto:
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>> > > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> > > Cc: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>, Summit Neighborhood
>> > >
>> > > e-mail <summit at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
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>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
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>> > > I'm going to risk becoming very unpopular now, but what I'd
>> really like to
>> > > see is alternating stop signs at every second intersection
>> throughout the
>> > > entire city, so that no one can travel more than two blocks on
>> any street
>> > > without having to come to a full stop. That would put a decisive
>> end to
>> > > the idea that any street can be regarded as a thoroughfare. --
>> Yeah, I
>> > > know that would never fly in Providence; but a guy can dream,
>> can't he? --
>> > > Bob M
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 1:05 PM Emlyn Addison
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a
>> hindrance,
>> > > > I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope
>> street which,
>> > > > most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many
>> here have
>> > > > noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians
>> in crosswalks,
>> > > > despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street
>> would reduce
>> > > > "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a
>> cruising strip?
>> > > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably
>> create more
>> > > > noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a
>> residential urban
>> > > > neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > > 8th Street
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> neighborhood?
>> > > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue
>> in various
>> > > > > places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that
>> there are some
>> > > > > strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved
>> to keep harmony
>> > > > > and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place
>> for people who
>> > > > > may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's
>> > > > > happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been
>> seen by all
>> > > > > those interested:
>> > > > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > > Message: 4
>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:36:59 -0400
>> > > From: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com <mailto:
>> gerritt at mindspring.com>
>> > > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>, James Kelley
>> > >
>> > > <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com
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>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > Message-ID: 02CB0059-D240-4B7E-88A6-5302374553C4 at mindspring.com
>> <mailto:02CB0059-D240-4B7E-88A6-5302374553C4 at mindspring.com>
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>> > > As a pedestrian, I love them.? Greg ?6th st
>> > >
>> > > From: Summit summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
>> summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us> on behalf of Emlyn Addison
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:56 PM
>> > > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood summit at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
>> summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > >
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a
>> hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street
>> which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here
>> have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in
>> crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street
>> would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a
>> cruising strip?
>> > >
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably
>> create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a
>> residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > >
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > >
>> > > 8th Street
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> neighborhood?
>> > >
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in
>> various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there
>> are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep
>> harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> people who may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > >
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen
>> by all those interested:
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
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>> > > Message: 5
>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:39:22 -0400
>> > > From: Greg Gerritt gerritt at mindspring.com <mailto:
>> gerritt at mindspring.com>
>> > > To: Robert Mathiesen rmath13 at gmail.com <mailto:rmath13 at gmail.com>,
>> Emlyn Addison
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>> > > <noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com>>
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>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> <mailto:summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > Message-ID: EACF9878-EF27-4D95-B6CA-555B6CF3EF78 at mindspring.com
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>> > > If all the vehicles were electric and charged via wires in the
>> roads, the cars could be governed by only allocating enough power for safe
>> speeds.? Or some other out of the box thinking?? greg
>> > >
>> > > From: Summit summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
>> summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us> on behalf of Robert Mathiesen
>> rmath13 at gmail.com <mailto:rmath13 at gmail.com>
>> > > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 1:29 PM
>> > > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood summit at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
>> summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > >
>> > > I'm going to risk becoming very unpopular now, but what I'd
>> really like to see is alternating stop signs at every second intersection
>> throughout the entire city, so that no one can travel more than two blocks
>> on any street without having to come to a full stop. That would put a
>> decisive end to the idea that any street can be regarded as a thoroughfare.
>> -- Yeah, I know that would never fly in Providence; but a guy can dream,
>> can't he? -- Bob M
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 1:05 PM Emlyn Addison
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a
>> hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street
>> which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here
>> have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in
>> crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street
>> would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a
>> cruising strip?
>> > >
>> > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably
>> create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a
>> residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > >
>> > > Emlyn Addison
>> > >
>> > > 8th Street
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> neighborhood?
>> > >
>> > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in
>> various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there
>> are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep
>> harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> people who may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > >
>> > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen
>> by all those interested:
>> > >
>> > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> >
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>> > > Message: 6
>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 13:42:27 -0400
>> > > From: Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com <mailto:
>> mmlarthur at gmail.com>
>> > > To: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>, James Kelley
>> > >
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>> > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> <mailto:summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > Message-ID: 60a00802.1c69fb81.c9dfe.f5b4 at mx.google.com <mailto:
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>> > > Raised crosswalks and actual speed bumps are tolerable. These
>> lumpy monstrosities are not. Even under 5 mph they are horribly jarring bc
>> you go over at different elevations with different wheels. I don't
>> understand why they couldn't just put in normal regular
>> bumps.--MMLAmmlarthur at gmail.com <mailto:bumps.--MMLAmmlarthur at gmail.com>?
>> > > -------- Original message --------From: Emlyn Addison
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:noisyblocks at gmail.com> Date: 5/15/21 1:05
>> PM (GMT-05:00) To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail
>> summit at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps From the peanut gallery: if they reduce
>> speeding and aren't a hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd
>> consider them for Hope street which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad
>> Max. I'm sure that many here have noticed how many vehicles still fail to
>> stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps
>> speed bumps on Hope street would reduce "braking apathy" and deter
>> drivers/riders from using it as a cruising strip?Speed bumps unfortunately
>> reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably create more noise from squealing
>> brakes and revving engines) but in a residential urban neighborhood these
>> are considerations
>> > worth weighing.Emlyn Addison8th StreetOn Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35
>> PM James Kelley <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in
>> our neighborhood?I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue
>> in various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there
>> are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep
>> harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> people who may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.Here is a small
>> background article that may not have been seen by all those interested:
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> >
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>> > > Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 14:00:49 -0400
>> > > From: Jacqui Ketner jacqui at akutech.com <mailto:
>> jacqui at akutech.com>
>> > > To: Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur mmlarthur at gmail.com <mailto:
>> mmlarthur at gmail.com>
>> > > Cc: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>, James Kelley
>> > >
>> > > <jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>>,
>> Summit Neighborhood e-mail
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>> > > <summit at sna.providence.ri.us <mailto:
>> summit at sna.providence.ri.us>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > Message-ID: 7449C057-B7CC-44BB-956F-2C5E8CD3ADCA at akutech.com
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>> > > I worry that these monstrosities will send more traffic roaring
>> through the side streets to avoid the bumps.
>> > > Jacqui
>> > >
>> > > > On May 15, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Mikaila Mariel Lemonik Arthur
>> mmlarthur at gmail.com <mailto:mmlarthur at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Raised crosswalks and actual speed bumps are tolerable. These
>> lumpy monstrosities are not. Even under 5 mph they are horribly jarring bc
>> you go over at different elevations with different wheels. I don't
>> understand why they couldn't just put in normal regular bumps.
>> > > > --MMLA
>> > > > mmlarthur at gmail.com <mailto:mmlarthur at gmail.com>
>> > > > -------- Original message --------
>> > > > From: Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com <mailto:
>> noisyblocks at gmail.com>
>> > > > Date: 5/15/21 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> > > > To: James Kelley jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>
>> > > > Cc: Summit Neighborhood e-mail summit at sna.providence.ri.us
>> <mailto:summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Summit] Speed Bumps
>> > > > From the peanut gallery: if they reduce speeding and aren't a
>> hindrance, I'm all for it. I only wish they'd consider them for Hope street
>> which, most days, is like a scene out of Mad Max. I'm sure that many here
>> have noticed how many vehicles still fail to stop for pedestrians in
>> crosswalks, despite it being state law. Perhaps speed bumps on Hope street
>> would reduce "braking apathy" and deter drivers/riders from using it as a
>> cruising strip?
>> > > > Speed bumps unfortunately reduce fuel efficiency (and arguably
>> create more noise from squealing brakes and revving engines) but in a
>> residential urban neighborhood these are considerations worth weighing.
>> > > > Emlyn Addison
>> > > > 8th Street
>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 12:35 PM James Kelley <
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com> mailto:
>> jameskelley4444 at gmail.com <mailto:jameskelley4444 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > > > Do we really want the proliferation of speed bumps in our
>> neighborhood?
>> > > > I'm writing in this forum because I'm seeing much dialogue in
>> various places such as on Facebook and Next Door and it seems that there
>> are some strong feelings pro and con that maybe need to be resolved to keep
>> harmony and happiness and this listserv is a good inclusive place for
>> people who may not have seen the other communications and might be
>> wondering what's happening. This is only one brief source.
>> > > > Here is a small background article that may not have been seen
>> by all those interested:
>> > > >
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan
>> <
>> https://www.golocalprov.com/news/elorza-more-speed-humps-part-of-providence-great-streets-master-plan>
>>
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