<div>Hi everyone. My husband is having issues posting his reply, so I'm sending it for him. If you'd like to contact him, his e-mail address is <a href="mailto:j_durham1463@hotmail.com">j_durham1463@hotmail.com</a></div>
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<p>My two cents on the parking bit:</p>
<p>As Tom points out, parking on the street is a fact of urban life in almost every other city but Providence for a number of good reasons:</p>
<p>The multifamily homes which promote the diversity that makes Summit what it is can't provide enough parking on a postage stamp lot without resorting to the ugly, environmentally disastrous practice of paving front and back lawns (and I don't understand how can anyone who enjoys walking in the neighborhood can be in favor of this...)
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<p>Parking on the street makes traffic slow down - When two cars drive down a street with parking they simply can't go as fast - accomplishing the same effect that was created by all those traffic calming bump outs for free. .and as far as the safety issue - it works all day - why can't it work at night????
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<p>Adequate parking (including street parking) is key to promoting increased home ownership. If those "tenements" (as Tom calls them) don't have enough parking they will forever remain lower rent and less well maintained. Allowing on street parking would promote the conversion of more multifamily homes into condos which provides more homeownership opportunities for first time homebuyers - which is almost always a good thing for a residential neighborhood in my opinion.
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<p>The idea that you own the street in front of your house is about the least neighborly idea I have heard on this email list - If you don't like to look at your neighbors ugly car, bump into them in the morning when your both on your way to work, or give them the same ability to park a car or two outside their house, then maybe its time to move to a suburb where everyone's house and car look just like yours. I don't mean to sound harsh - but Providence is a city - cities evolve and change over time - the laws that regulate them have to keep up with the pace of change or else we will end up with irreparable damage that we'll all look back at and regret.
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/9/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ayni Strang</b> <<a href="mailto:ayni_strang@yahoo.com">ayni_strang@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Our condo association at 76-78 9th St was established in 1987. We are currently owner occupied condos but over the past years that was not always the case. We decided early on that keeping the back yard as a garden was important to the association regardless if a condo was owner occupied or tenant occupied. Our driveway holds what it holds and typically it is 3 cars.
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have to be realistic about the community, most especially growth. We need parking laws exactly like they have in Cambridge and Somerville. Permit parking, one side of the street parking which helps owners keep the community green. The expansion of Providence as a place to live for those who work in Boston is here.
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are those people. My husband and I rented our condo for 14 of the 20 years we have owned it, having moved to Seekonk. We moved back into the condo in 2001 because we love the area. We commute to Cambridge every day, and we see no reason not to cherish our Providence neighborhoods by having reasonable parking and keeping our areas green. No need to get mean about the diversity in our neighborhood, which is the reason we want to live here.
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mt.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Auburn Hospital in Cambridge is of similar size and in a similar neighborhood that we share with Miriam hospital. What helps those residents are the parking regulations. It is fair, cost effective and a reasonable approach to city living. Miriam is expanding which in turn will put more pressure on parking because more and more properties will become condo associations. Just the way it is.
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<div>With all due respect, I was highly offended by your post this morning. You made some huge generalizations about people and the neighborhood. Who are "those people" you refer to? Are there a specific subset of people you don't feel are good enough to be your neighbor? As someone who has been faced with discrimination in my life, you comments raise an alarm in my head of coming close to hatred. I also don't understand how you can characterize all people outside of commited relationships as unable to be good neighbors who care about the space they live.
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<div>I am all for an open discussion about the issues at hand, but I feel that we should remain aware of the statements we're making and try to refrain from overgeneralizations and discriminatory statements.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/9/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Paul Aceto</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:pjaceto@cox.net" target="_blank">pjaceto@cox.net</a>> wrote:
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> I moved into this neighborhood 25 years ago to get away from THOSE<br>PEOPLE. I don't want to live next door to a constant succession of
<br>transients. Roommates make the worst neighbors. I've been a live-in landlord<br>for 25 years and I've learned that the hard way. The best tenants (and<br>neighbors) are committed couples, not roomates. Let those people live in
<br>some other neighborhood. I've put too much blood, sweat and money into my<br>property to let someone moving in and ruin it for me.<br><br>Paul<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Thomas Nosal" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:milburtus@hotmail.com" target="_blank">
milburtus@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:catuck@cox.net" target="_blank">catuck@cox.net</a>>; <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jessica.jenner@verizon.net" target="_blank">
jessica.jenner@verizon.net</a>>;<br><<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Summit@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank"> Summit@sna.providence.ri.us</a>><br>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:37 PM
<br>Subject: Re: [Summit] Parking<br><br><br>> Hi Anne,<br>> I apologize. In hindsight what i said wasnt all that neighborly.. however<br>> perhaps its because it doesnt seem like everyone in the summit <br>> neighborhood
<br>> is being all that neighborly either, at least not to the less fortunate.<br>> In<br>> a nutshell: those who can afford a house with ample parking are welcome<br>> and<br>> those who have to settle for the tenement with only 2 spaces need to get
<br>> out.<br>><br>> The status quo works for most of us in the summit neighborhood. Most<br>> people<br>> have a $350,000 home with a two car garage and having to park on the<br>> street<br>> isnt an issue. However, here's a hypothetical situation: you just got out
<br>> of<br>> college and are looking to move into a nice, safe neigborhood. You hear<br>> about the summit neighborhood, sounds great! An apartment on 8th street<br>> will<br>> run you about $1200, which unfortunately might be a little too much for
<br>> someone still paying off college loans. The solution: find a roommate.<br>> With<br>> an extra person on board you can cover the rent but uh-oh; both of you<br>> have<br>> a car, 4 people who live upstairs each have a car, and the driveway only
<br>> fits 2 cars! It looks like someones gonna have to pay 15$ every night to<br>> park on the street or move out...that sucks, the neighbors up the block<br>> can<br>> afford a nice house with a two car garage, why cant you?
<br>><br>> Something's gotta give. If not overnight parking for all, then those with<br>> a<br>> special case should be able to apply for an overnight parking sticker if<br>> they meet certain requirements (no driveway, apartment doesnt have space
<br>> etc...)<br>><br>> Concerning the lawn issue: I wish that people who complain about paved<br>> front<br>> lawns stopped to think that if the tenants of those buildings could park<br>> on<br>> the street, there would be no need to pave nice landscaped yards (as greg
<br>> already pointed out).<br>><br>> Thanks<br>><br>><br>><br>>>From: "Chris and Michelle Tuck" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:catuck@cox.net" target="_blank">
catuck@cox.net</a>><br>>>To: "Thomas Nosal" <br>>><<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:milburtus@hotmail.com" target="_blank">milburtus@hotmail.com</a>>,<
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jessica.jenner@verizon.net" target="_blank">jessica.jenner@verizon.net</a>>,<<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Summit@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank">
Summit@sna.providence.ri.us </a>><br>>>Subject: Re: [Summit] Parking<br>>>Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 20:35:07 -0400<br>>><br>>>No, it's "Move to Boston if you DO want cars on your street, stay in
<br>>>Providence if you DON'T want cars on the street." I like the rules just <br>>>as<br>>>they are thank you very much.<br>>><br>>><br>>>----- Original Message -----<br>>>From: "Thomas Nosal" <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:milburtus@hotmail.com" target="_blank">milburtus@hotmail.com </a>><br>>>To: <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jessica.jenner@verizon.net" target="_blank">
jessica.jenner@verizon.net</a>>; <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Summit@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank">Summit@sna.providence.ri.us</a>><br>>>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:05 PM
<br>>>Subject: Re: [Summit] Parking<br>>><br>>><br>>> ><br>>> > You live in a city, people have to park cars. move to coventry if you<br>>>dont<br>>> > want cars on your street.
<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > >From: "Jessica Jenner" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jessica.jenner@verizon.net" target="_blank">
jessica.jenner@verizon.net</a>><br>>> > >Reply-To: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jessica.jenner@verizon.net" target="_blank">jessica.jenner@verizon.net</a><br>>> > >To: "'Summit Neighborhood'" <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Summit@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank">Summit@sna.providence.ri.us</a>><br>>> > >Subject: Re: [Summit] Parking <br>>> > >Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 17:18:21 -0400
<br>>> > ><br>>> > >Wow. We need to make this a big deal and get Kevin Jackson's<br>>>attention.<br>>> > >Regardless of one's personal opinion, if the building inspector and <br>
>>police<br>>> > >won't enforce the rules, that is a problem. Jessica<br>>> > ><br>>> > > _____<br>>> > ><br>>> > >From: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Summit-bounces@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank">
Summit-bounces@sna.providence.ri.us</a><br>>> > >[mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Summit-bounces@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank">Summit-bounces@sna.providence.ri.us
</a>] On Behalf Of Paul Aceto<br>>> > >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:29 PM <br>>> > >To: Summit Neighborhood<br>>> > >Subject: [Summit] Parking<br>>> > ><br>>> > >
<br>>> > > Some have mentioned parking in front yards, etc. Here are the <br>>> > > city<br>>> > >ordinances that apply:<br>>> > ><br>>> > >Chapter 15 (Motor Vehicles), Article I, Section 15-11 c) and d):
<br>>>Parking<br>>> > >is not allowed in the front of a building. You may not drive across a <br>>> > >sidewalk to reach a parking area (unless there is a city-installed<br>>> > >curb-cut).
<br>>> > ><br>>> > >Chapter 27, Article VII, Section 704.2 a) and c), Section 704.3: You<br>>>can't<br>>> > >pave a front yard as a parking area. Only 50% of a rear yard may be<br>
>>paved<br>>> > >for parking. You can't park on an unpaved area.<br>>> > > <br>>> > > I'm familiar with these ordinances because the out-of-state<br>>>landlord<br>>> > >next door to me paved his entire rear yard to provide parking for
<br>>>students.<br>>> > >I had the building inspector out to see it and he agreed. He refused <br>>> > >to<br>>>do<br>>> > >anything about it because he had "more important" things to do.
<br>>> > ><br>>> > > Note that 91 Fourth Street is being turned into condos. The owner <br>>>dug<br>>> > >up<br>>> > >the grass in front of the house and replaced it with paving stones.
<br>>> > >The<br>>> > >contractors are using that area to park their trucks. Where do you <br>>>think<br>>> > >the<br>>> > >new tenants are going to park? Why won't Kevin Jackson insist that the
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