<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm with Elianna. I grew up in Manhattan and still spend a lot of time there. Cars everywhere you look, narrow streets, exhaust fumes, the daily parking shuffle/nightmare (especially bad when it snows), noise (including car alarms going off at all hours), a general grimness and density to the streetscape, and added security worries for any woman walking alone at night. No thanks. <div><br></div><div>Karen<br><div><div>On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Breslers wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">hmmm I can see why you would feel that way, but I'll NEVER be for on street parking-<br><br>I already lived MORE than enough years with it. It was such a pain, in so many ways, that it dragged down the quality of daily living in Boston. Ugh. Getting tickets while unloading your groceries into your own house because there was no where to park nearby. Dodging those tickets every week. Then trying to find where to put your car. Having to dry off your guests after they walked 3 blocks in a down pour. Shoveling out a parking space for your car, and having to fight for it or shovel again & again.<br> "No onstreet parking" requires landlords to provide parking, and improves everyone's quality of life.<br><br>That's my opinion.<br><br>Elianna<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Andrew Nosal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy@mapcenter.com">andy@mapcenter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><div>Thank you Coryndon, for the links to Rational Analysis.</div><div style=""> <div><br></div><div>Does anyone else see the great, neighborly breakthrough possible here? There can be a new on-street parking scheme that does not inconvenience residents and also allows hospital employees' cars to occupy otherwise idle pavement - in exchange for replacing the horrible parking lots with good stuff like houses or shops! ( Just no "garage front" houses please)</div> <br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div style=""><div><div>On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Coryndon Luxmoore wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="">Andrew you might enjoy this report commissioned by San Francisco MTA<div> <br></div><div><a href="http://sf.streetsblog.org/wp-content/upload1/SFMTAPresentationonExtendingParkingMeterHours101309.pdf" target="_blank">http://sf.streetsblog.org/wp-content/upload1/SFMTAPresentationonExtendingParkingMeterHours101309.pdf</a></div> <div><a href="http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/13/mta-releases-parking-meter-study-that-proposes-extending-hours/" target="_blank">http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/13/mta-releases-parking-meter-study-that-proposes-extending-hours/</a></div> <div><a href="http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/15/donald-shoup-calls-san-francisco-parking-meter-study-pathbreaking/" target="_blank">http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/15/donald-shoup-calls-san-francisco-parking-meter-study-pathbreaking/</a></div> <div><br></div><div>As a resident nearby the hospital I agree that there is an over compensation by the meter maids and the hospital to prevent employees parking on the street but as long as they insist on the horrible parking lots it is appropriate. The biggest issue as I see it is the really poorly maintained parking signage in the area which does not make the rules clear.</div> <div><br></div><div>--C</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">--------------------------------------------</font></div> <div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">Coryndon Luxmoore</font></div> <div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">Interaction Designer</font></div> <div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">coryndon (at) luxmoore (dot) com</font></div> <div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">---------------------------------------------</font></div> </div> </div><br><div><div>On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Andrew Nosal wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Raising some money through parking enforcement is a fine idea. The disgrace is how pointless and victimless are the most ruthlessly enforced parking regulations: the overnight ban, and time limits on out of the way blocks. I would like to see more enforcement of laws that actually impact safety and well being, like speeding, red light running and failure to yield.<br> <br>There has been an absurd over-reaction to the problem of ** OMG hospital employees are parking all day.* * Why is it best that hundreds of perfectly good curbside spaces remain vacant, all day, every day, while the hospital is compelled to maintain big ugly parking lots that could be developed as housing or other useful things? If we want residents to be priveleged to park on their own streets, give them permit stickers and enough reserved space on every block. The rest of the spaces could then be used by whoever. The no-turnover problem that all-day parkers create in busy commercial areas and adjacent to the hospital itself is best solved by meters.<br> <br>Parking policies today are not the result of any systematic thinking or rational analysis. 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