<div dir="ltr">Again, the issue is that this law passes the cost to the consumer, instead of to the business owners, upon whom the responsibility should fall.<div><br></div><div>Side note: everyone seems to be thinking only of plastic carry-out bags, and not about plastic produce bags, which are as much of if not more of a problem. It's very easy to stuff ten environmentally-devastating plastic produce bags into a single reusable carry-out bag.</div><div><br></div><div>-Chris</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Greg Gerritt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gerritt@mindspring.com" target="_blank">gerritt@mindspring.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><div>Most of the supermarkets that are low price leaders already charge for bags. The goal is to massively reduce plastic. And put a fee on polluting . Plus, I thijnk the low income issue is not factualy based. Countries much poorer than the USA, (Kenya) banned plastic bags. 5 other towns in RI already have banned bags. Cities across America have banned bagss. The outcry was looud about the poor each time, but the adverse affecdts are just not happening. People still find a cheap way to carry things. Most homeless people carry a backpack or somehting. They can store durable plastic bags that they buy for 10 cents in the backpack for when they need them. </div><div><br></div><div>The only people who this will actually adversely affect are those with zero cash income. Which means SNAP so they can eat and nothing else. That is rather unusual in the USA. People with nothing have to be a bit frugal. They can keep a bag. Women with children carry rather large purses or some other bag that can store a bag or two just like the other supplies they carry. Maybe two weeks before actual impementation we give away the reusable bags and remind folks to hold onto them for future use, and it can say reuse this bag often in however many languages are appropriate.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyone with cash buying from a store, 90% of the time the change will pay for at least one bag ( and if you question that do the math) Your change will always be between 1 cent and 99 cents and the distribution is essentially random, which means that 90% of the time it will be at least 10 cents. </div><div><br></div><div>Think about it another way. Plastic bags that do not break easily if you have a load in them are a valuable resource, Worth 10 cents. Put a value on them and people will reuse them. Which is the whole point. Or do we just give in to the craziness of consumerism? </div><div><br></div><div>Greg gerritt </div><div><br></div><span id="m_-1567623169917054499OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Kim Clark <<a href="mailto:ktcxyz@cox.net" target="_blank">ktcxyz@cox.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 8:14 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Martha Fraenkel <<a href="mailto:mfraenkel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mfraenkel@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Summit Neighborhood <<a href="mailto:Summit@sna.providence.ri.us" target="_blank">Summit@sna.providence.ri.us</a>><span class=""><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Summit] Plastic Bags<br></span></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="h5">it’s egregious because grocery stores can buy paper bags in massive quantities at a reasonable cost. It’s not too much to ask that THEY pick up the cost.<div><br></div><div>I have a small business and I have to buy paper bags in small quantities and they’re fairly expensive, but I would never consider purchasing plastic bags and nor would I ask my customers to pay for the bags I put their purchase in.</div><div><br></div><div>respectfully,</div><div><br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5">k<br><div><div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><b> </b><b> </b><b>Kim T. 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He’s absolutely right. The ten cent fee per bag was egregious <br>
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low-income families, Providence Mayor Jorge O. Elorza on
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the use of single-use plastic bags in the city that would
require stores to charge customers no less than 10 cents per
bag."<br>
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