[Summit] unwarranted stop signs
amasri1 at cox.net
amasri1 at cox.net
Fri Oct 12 15:05:37 UTC 2007
The interesting thing about this intersection is, before when it was a two-way stop sign, 5th Street traffic would constantly be stopping before Highland Ave even though they didn't have a stop sign.
---- John Bazik <jsb at cs.brown.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:30:37AM -0400, Allan Tear wrote:
> > Andrew, are there particular new stops to which you are referring?
>
> I've got one: 5th and Highland. That one is especially strange,
> since it stops ambulances on the way to the ER.
>
> According to the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices
> (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/HTM/2003r1/html-index.htm), section
> 2B-07, "Multiway Stop Applications," the criteria for a 4-way
> stop sign are:
>
> A. Where traffic control signals are justified, the multiway stop is
> an interim measure that can be installed quickly to control traffic
> while arrangements are being made for the installation of the
> traffic control signal.
>
> B. A crash problem, as indicated by 5 or more reported crashes in a
> 12-month period that are susceptible to correction by a multiway
> stop installation. Such crashes include right- and left-turn
> collisions as well as right-angle collisions.
>
> C. Minimum volumes:
> 1. The vehicular volume entering the intersection from the
> major street approaches (total of both approaches) averages
> at least 300 vehicles per hour for any 8 hours of an average
> day, and
>
> 2. The combined vehicular, pedestrian, and bicycle volume
> entering the intersection from the minor street approaches
> (total of both approaches) averages at least 200 units
> per hour for the same 8 hours, with an average delay to
> minor-street vehicular traffic of at least 30 seconds per
> vehicle during the highest hour, but
>
> 3. If the 85th-percentile approach speed of the major-street
> traffic exceeds 65 km/h or exceeds 40 mph, the minimum
> vehicular volume warrants are 70 percent of the above values.
>
> D. Where no single criterion is satisfied, but where Criteria B, C.1,
> and C.2 are all satisfied to 80 percent of the minimum
> values. Criterion C.3 is excluded from this condition.
>
> I suspect those criteria are rarely met when 4-way stops are put in.
>
> John
>
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