[Summit] snow plowing

marco pereira markenid2004 at mac.com
Mon Dec 22 16:36:44 UTC 2008


Lets send a letter with the complain about the lack of work that the  
snow plowers did all over.
they should not get paid for what i see all over.
It is disrespected for our money and the people safe.
Marco

On Dec 21, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Jennifer Luxmoore wrote:

> I don't think we should have to settle for snow covered streets.
>
> I grew up in upstate NY, we had snow all the time, and our street  
> were clear...crystal. They would sand and salt before the storm then  
> continue plowing and sanding thru the storm.  We never had ice build  
> up that would sit around for the entire winter. The last year I  
> lived there we had a huge storm where the county closed everything  
> at 4 pm. By 10 pm we had 4 FEET of snow. I went to work the next  
> morning at 9:30. (late because I had to dig out my car). The side  
> roads, the main roads, the highways... everything was clean.
>
> Clean roads can be achieved, it's done in NY and in Mass and many  
> other states!  I think Rhode Islanders end up being grateful for  
> what they can get, rather than expecting what they should have.  
> Plowing here is bad and we just accept it... it's the Rhode Island  
> way to not expect too much from our state government.
>
> Jennifer Luxmoore
> jennifer at luxmoore.com
>
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Bresler E wrote:
>
>> I'm somewhere in the middle, on a lot of that, except I feel  
>> strongly & am quite outspoken about the need for THOROUGH  
>> shoveling, side walk AND path into the street on the corners;  I  
>> think places that plow onto sidewalks should be given large fines,  
>> and the plow driver should be made to repair the problem by hand,  
>> (maybe using using a child's sand shovel?), so they remember not to  
>> do it again.
>> When you contribute to making your elderly neighbors have to walk  
>> in the street, you are risking their lives.  That is not a small  
>> matter.
>> Elianna
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Jeffrey Cavanaugh <jeff at cavanaugh.org 
>> > wrote:
>> Andy's right.  Narrow streets aren't inherently dangerous, although
>> I'd be for more aggressive plowing early in the season as the snow
>> could be with us for a while.  A agree vehemently with what he said
>> about unshoveled sidewalks.
>>
>> That being said, I would prefer that the money we pay in taxes not be
>> squandered and stolen by corrupt politicians so we could have  
>> properly
>> plowed streets, keep the libraries open and educate our kids!  I want
>> it all!  I would like Rhode Islanders to stop thinking they have to
>> give up some or all of these things to pay the corrupt yet  
>> charismatic
>> politicians their "bonus" and that RI can't do a whole lot better.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com 
>> > wrote:
>> > I am with Andy.  Smarter, not more, though they are resanding  
>> now.  Greg
>> > gerritt
>> >
>> >
>> > on 12/21/08 10:40 AM, Andrew Nosal at andy at mapcenter.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> As far as I can tell, the plowing has been done obsessively well  
>> this
>> >> storm, a comical overreaction to last December's great Debacle.
>> >>
>> >> I wish they would slash the plowing budget instead of closing  
>> libraries.
>> >>
>> >> Seriously.  Black pavement, curb to curb plowing and parking  
>> bans are
>> >> necessary only for commercial areas and  through streets.  One  
>> lane,
>> >> snow covered side streets are good enough.  Stop whining!  So  
>> you have
>> >> to spin your wheels a bit and go slowly.  Limit sand and salt to  
>> hills
>> >> and intersections.  Eventually it all melts!
>> >>
>> >> Once more with feeling:  Narrow Streets Are Not Dangerous!  Yes  
>> there
>> >> must be space for vehicles to pass through, but the slower they  
>> have
>> >> to go, the safer the street.  No one should have a license  
>> unless they
>> >> can parallel park, back into a driveway, aim their car through a
>> >> narrow space and correctly judge a safe speed to travel.
>> >>
>> >> In every city besides weirdly hysterical Providence, cars stay  
>> parked
>> >> along the curbs except along designated snow emergency streets.   
>> The
>> >> plow plows them in.  The parkers have to shovel their cars out.
>> >> Drivers who get sick and tired of having to do that either get  
>> rid of
>> >> their cars or save up and move to houses with their own driveways.
>> >>
>> >> Me, I save my whining for how atrociously hard it can be to walk
>> >> around with all the unshoveled sidewalks.  Danger is  having to  
>> walk
>> >> in the street because the sidewalk is blocked.  I save my vilest
>> >> curses for those who dump parking lot and driveway snow so as to  
>> block
>> >> the sidewalks.
>> >>
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