[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 34, Issue 24

Sat Jan 12 16:50:53 UTC 2008

One of the aspects in this discussion that has been missing is commending
Kelly in getting involved. I called her yesterday to get some clarity on her
email and found out that she is a young mother of a 4 year old and another
child much younger than that (I forget the age of the younger child). Along
with that, she also works in Interior Design, a field I once worked in that
is very labor intensive and competitive. That she has gotten involved is
admirable. 

I have not been involved in politics on this level and I think it's great
that she is. We might not all agree with her methods but she is involved and
that's great. 

Heidi Gervais

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   1. Re: Politics on the list (Greg Gerritt)
   2. Re: Please sign and help (Jim Kelley)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:46:17 -0500
From: Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Politics on the list
To: Bob Trudeau <bobtrudeau at cox.net>,	Summit Neighborhood
	<Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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I totally agree with Bob.  Real local politics is also real action in the
community.  

It should be noted that several members of the SNA board are active in party
politics in our community, and from a variety of parties. And all working to
improve life in the community together.   Greg Gerritt

on 1/12/08 10:40 AM, Bob Trudeau at bobtrudeau at cox.net wrote:

> Hi all:
> Here's a message in FAVOR of politics on the list, which is what we do 
> on this list anyhow.
> 
> Aristotle is often cited as noting that what makes us human is the 
> ability to form groups to improve our society, to pursue the common 
> good in more modern parlance.  I see this list doing exactly that in 
> most of its messages: some people want to improve the community by 
> allowing all night parking, some want to improve it by banning same.
> Both are being political in the broad sense of the word.  And that's 
> exactly what we should do, as long as it's civil.  Some want to 
> prevent this or that, I want to somehow get people to not block their 
> sidewalks with snow, thick hedges, piles of dirt, etc.  All of these 
> sentiments presume that at some point a community is going to make a 
> decision that will bind on all of us -- that's politics, and that's 
> what we're doing, in the best sense of the word.
> 
> Many folks unfortunately equate "politics" not with what I've noted 
> above but with partisanship and political parties.  I'm arguing for a 
> broader definition above, and I'm arguing that we should welcome this 
> opportunity to use the list to improve the community.  But even if 
> it's partisan politics.  So what?  That's part of improving 
> communities, even when we disagree about parties and candidates.
> It's often been said that our modern society isolates us -- remember 
> Pursuit of Loneliness? -- and when that happens we have too few 
> opportunities to communicate about things that matter.  Candidates and 
> elections matter, and we're often, unless you try very hard, the 
> prisoner of a few media outlets and slick consultants when it comes to 
> learning about issues and candidates.  Iowa's caucuses are interesting 
> because people actually meet and talk with each other.
> Neat.  So if this list can help us exchange views on candidates and 
> issues, I'm all for it, even if we cross over a line into (gasp) 
> partisanship.
> 
> Gather ye signatures while ye may!  Let the list flourish!
> 
> Bob Trudeau
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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:51:05 -0500
From: "Jim Kelley" <jim-kelley2 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help
To: <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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I think this was an appropriate announcement. Someone here once described
this forum as analogous to talking to your neighbor over the fence. Assuming
you have an ongoing conversational relationship with your neighbors I think
you would occasionally let each other know about community or civic
involvements to provide the option to help each other out. What I think
would harm the relationship with my neighbor is if one of us frequently put
unwelcome propaganda of some type in each others mailbox.

However, I do have a lively exchange of political views via calls and
messages with one of my neighbors who has a very different world view from
me. I think we have each found it enlightening.

Personally, I think it could be fun and informative to have a forum
dedicated to this type of exchange in the way [market] is for community, low
key commerce. Below are our current e-mail lists. Perhaps we ca revive and
dedicate ProvForum for this.

<http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/hillside_sna.providence.r
i.us> Hillside

Discussion centered on the fate of the former Hillside Health Center.

<http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/market_sna.providence.ri.
us> Market

Neighborhood marketplace list.

<http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/northmain_sna.providence.
ri.us> NorthMain

News and action items on North Main St Project

<http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/provforum_sna.providence.
ri.us> ProvForum

Providence Neighborhood Forum

<http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/summit_sna.providence.ri.
us> Summit

A discussion list for neighborhood issues.

Btw,

This listserv and blog, etc is supported by our annual dues, the yard sale,
and many dedicated volunteer hours.

The North Main Street project does have legislative and city grant support.

--Jim K SNA Treas.

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[mailto:summit-bounces at sna.providence.ri.us] On Behalf Of Richard Streitfeld
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:28 AM
To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help

I agree with Jennifer, Coryndon and Kelly -- this is not political

advocacy but an announcement.  As long as we do not exclude or take

sides I don't see the offense.  One could day that SNA itself gets

involved in "political" issues, even if it does not endorse candidates,

so this is a natural outgrowth. I would only be concerned if someone

overused the privilege, which is not the case here. 

Rich Streitfeld

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   2. Re: Please sign and help! (Coryndon Luxmoore)

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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:50:25 -0500

From: Jennifer Luxmoore <jennifer at luxmoore.com>

Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help!

To: Paul Aceto <pjaceto at cox.net>

Cc: 'Summit Neighborhood' <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>

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I believe Kelly said  " to remind you, it?s not a vote for anyone? 

it?s just a signature." I don't think she was endorsing one party or the

other. And for what it's worth, I'm a Democrat, but would certainly sign

the petition for the Republicans to get on the ballot.  

A fair and open election is what we should all be hoping for.

Jennifer Luxmoore

jennifer at luxmoore.com

On Jan 12, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Paul Aceto wrote:

>     I object to someone outside of Summit using this contact list to

> help a particular party. We are not all Democrats in Summit.

> 

> Paul

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Coryndon Luxmoore

> To: Paul Aceto

> Cc: 'Summit Neighborhood'

> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:24 AM

> Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help!

> 

> I cannot imagine a more appropriate use for this list than neighbors

> organizing and participating in the community. --Coryndon

> 

> --------------------------------------------

> Coryndon Luxmoore

> Interaction Designer

> 

> coryndon (at) luxmoore (dot) com

> ---------------------------------------------

> 

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Paul Aceto wrote:

> 

>>     I question whether the Summit list server is an appropriate forum

>> for this sort of thing.

>> 

>> Paul

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: KTID

>> To: scottricongress at yahoo.com ; 'Greg Gerritt' ; summit-

>> bounces at sna.providence.ri.us ; 'Summit Neighborhood'

>> Cc: 'Rhoades Alderson'

>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:06 PM

>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help!

>> 

>> Thanks to all who have shown interest, called me, emailed, etc.   

>> Difficult or not, it is what it is and just to remind you, it?s not a

>> vote for anyone?it?s just a signature.

>> 

>> 

>> WE NEED YOUR JOHN HANCOCK!!

>> 

>> 

>> Also on Saturday from 2-5pm there will be someone with petitions at

>> the Rochambeau Library.

>> 

>> 

>> Thanks again.

>> 

>> Kelly

>> 

>> 

>> Kelly Taylor Interior Design

>> 

>> 27 Sims Avenue

>> 

>> .us/

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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:55:23 -0500

From: Coryndon Luxmoore <coryndon at luxmoore.com>

Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help!

To: Paul Aceto <pjaceto at cox.net>

Cc: 'Summit Neighborhood' <summit at sna.providence.ri.us>

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I object to many views on this list and I am not aware of anyone

restricting this to strictly "Summit" as we have a few folks who still

participate from outside of the neighborhood.

As for the party in question at least one of the participants in the

discussion involved was from the competing party. I my opinion community

events and actions are community appropriate even if you are not

supportive of them. If you don't like it hit the delete  button.

--C

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Coryndon Luxmoore

Interaction Designer

21 Sarah St #2

Providence, RI 02906

coryndon at luxmoore.com

W: (401) 709-2377

M: (401) 952-4867

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On Jan 12, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Paul Aceto wrote:

>     I object to someone outside of Summit using this contact list to

> help a particular party. We are not all Democrats in Summit.

> 

> Paul

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Coryndon Luxmoore

> To: Paul Aceto

> Cc: 'Summit Neighborhood'

> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:24 AM

> Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help!

> 

> I cannot imagine a more appropriate use for this list than neighbors

> organizing and participating in the community. --Coryndon

> 

> --------------------------------------------

> Coryndon Luxmoore

> Interaction Designer

> 

> coryndon (at) luxmoore (dot) com

> ---------------------------------------------

> 

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Paul Aceto wrote:

> 

>>     I question whether the Summit list server is an appropriate forum

>> for this sort of thing.

>> 

>> Paul

>> 

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: KTID

>> To: scottricongress at yahoo.com ; 'Greg Gerritt' ; summit-

>> bounces at sna.providence.ri.us ; 'Summit Neighborhood'

>> Cc: 'Rhoades Alderson'

>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:06 PM

>> Subject: Re: [Summit] Please sign and help!

>> 

>> Thanks to all who have shown interest, called me, emailed, etc.   

>> Difficult or not, it is what it is and just to remind you, it?s not a

>> vote for anyone?it?s just a signature.

>> 

>> 

>> WE NEED YOUR JOHN HANCOCK!!

>> 

>> 

>> Also on Saturday from 2-5pm there will be someone with petitions at

>> the Rochambeau Library.

>> 

>> 

>> Thanks again.

>> 

>> Kelly

>> 

>> 

>> Kelly Taylor Interior Design

>> 

>> 27 Sims Avenue

>> 

>> .us/

>> _______________________________________________

>> Summit mailing list

>> Summit at sna.providence.ri.us

>> http://mail.sna.providence.ri.us/mailman/listinfo/

>> summit_sna.providence.ri.us

>> SNA Website: http://sna.providence.ri.us/

> 

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