[Summit] Summit Digest, Vol 48, Issue 20
Michael Brennan
mikebrennan at gmail.com
Tue Mar 24 04:54:16 UTC 2009
I actually emailed this list about this woman when I moved to 4th st. (from
6th st) sometime last year.
A few google searches and the providence journal archvies led me to learn
that her mother died in a sudden car accident a few years back. I can only
assume that she has not kept up on her meds after her mother passed away. I
currently live on 4th st. and nearly every other day hear her screaming or
yelling nonsense. Her name is Anna and she lives a few houses down from me
(I live at 141 4th).
While she does appear to be harmless... one never knows. There has been an
occasion or two when she has looked directly at me as I exited my car and
stated to scream nonsenese. It can be quite unnerving. In additon, I have
witnessed the local police haul her off on more than one occasion to
who-knows-where when she yells in the middle of the night... However, she
always seems to return to the area a week or so later.
Anyway, logic tells me that due to her well-kept appearance and such that
she is somewhat lucid and can take care of herself. I do admit that it is
somewhat unnerving to hear her yell and scream in the middle of the night
while the neighborhood is sleeping. However, I dont know what can be done.
It is an unfortunate situation with no ideal solution..
-Mike Brennan
(4th st)
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> 1. Lady who shouts at strangers (Mark T.B. Carroll)
> 2. Re: Lady who shouts at strangers (Mark T.B. Carroll)
> 3. Re: Lady who shouts at strangers (Bresler E)
> 4. Re: Lady who shouts at strangers (Bresler E)
> 5. Re: Lady who shouts at strangers (PSZ333 at aol.com)
> 6. Re: Lady who shouts at strangers (Moxie)
> 7. Re: Lady who shouts at strangers (Gardner and Company)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:07 -0400
> From: "Mark T.B. Carroll" <mtbc at ixod.org>
> Subject: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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> Over quite some time now I've noticed a lady with long hair in the area
> of 5th / Bayard (I don't know how much further she roams - does anyone
> else?) who walks around outside in the daytime shouting at passers-by -
> calling them names, etc. Is she a well-known local character? Is there
> any `caregiver' or suchlike who should be notified when she's roaming
> around yelling at people and drivers? (Actually, having a listener seems
> to be somewhat optional, sometimes she just wanders around shouting.) I
> haven't tried interacting with her myself, yet: I find it hard to guess
> how that would go, and I don't want to aggravate her further. I don't
> really mind, it's just that I don't want to be ignoring someone who may
> need some kind of assistance, but I don't know what, if anything, would
> help. When I first saw her I thought she probably had some Bluetooth
> headset or something or was arguing with someone she knows, but over
> time it's become clear that it's all rather more random than that. I
> don't know if actually engaging her in patient conversation would help
> or not, but I figured maybe someone else around here might have a better
> idea? She doesn't seem especially unkempt so I'm guessing she's not
> homeless. And for all I know everyone who's been around here for a while
> is already familiar with the situation and have already tried to help.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:52:38 -0400
> From: "Mark T.B. Carroll" <mtbc at ixod.org>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: Summit at sna.providence.ri.us
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> Thanks very much for the background! I'm glad that at least the local
> authorities are familiar with her, though it's a pity that her illness
> seems to make her so unhappy. I ran into her on Summit a few minutes ago
> and she really didn't seem to be making any sense. Still, while she
> calls people names, I didn't feel physically threatened, and after I
> listened to her insulting me for a while she seemed to lose interest and
> strode off, which does so far seem to have been the pattern of
> encounters I've witnessed. She didn't seem rational enough that I should
> try to actually engage her in conversation, given how annoyed she
> already seemed to be, she just seems to yell a bit and move on
> elsewhere.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:03:44 -0400
> From: Bresler E <breslerfamily at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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> I don't have any special information about this lady.
>
> But I also see her passing my house on Hope & 6th, and also in the Library
> occasionally, where she continues with her loud talking (unfortunately for
> the quiet library). But she doesn't stay long and the staff seems to
> accept
> she just talks loudly and continually and then leaves. She doesn't
> otherwise bother anyone. She does NOT seem to be aggressive or even
> particularly upset, only sounds like she feels she has something urgent to
> tell us, but what that is - is not clear to me. (I've never heard any
> specific insults or comments directed at me.) Then she goes on her way.
>
> Our social services systems are not perfect, and sometimes people who could
> benefit, steer clear because of the down sides of interacting with that
> system.
>
> Some people just like being pretty "different ." Maybe she feels fine as
> she
> is?
>
> I also hope she is getting what she needs. I would be happy to hear if
> someone can provide us with some useful information/guidance without
> invading her privacy. If she has housing & food, maybe it is just none of
> our business...
>
> Elianna
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Mark T.B. Carroll <mtbc at ixod.org> wrote:
>
> > Over quite some time now I've noticed a lady with long hair in the area
> > of 5th / Bayard (I don't know how much further she roams - does anyone
> > else?) who walks around outside in the daytime shouting at passers-by -
> > calling them names, etc. Is she a well-known local character? Is there
> > any `caregiver' or suchlike who should be notified when she's roaming
> > around yelling at people and drivers? (Actually, having a listener seems
> > to be somewhat optional, sometimes she just wanders around shouting.) I
> > haven't tried interacting with her myself, yet: I find it hard to guess
> > how that would go, and I don't want to aggravate her further. I don't
> > really mind, it's just that I don't want to be ignoring someone who may
> > need some kind of assistance, but I don't know what, if anything, would
> > help. When I first saw her I thought she probably had some Bluetooth
> > headset or something or was arguing with someone she knows, but over
> > time it's become clear that it's all rather more random than that. I
> > don't know if actually engaging her in patient conversation would help
> > or not, but I figured maybe someone else around here might have a better
> > idea? She doesn't seem especially unkempt so I'm guessing she's not
> > homeless. And for all I know everyone who's been around here for a while
> > is already familiar with the situation and have already tried to help.
> >
> > Mark
> >
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> From: Bresler E <breslerfamily at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: "Mark T.B. Carroll" <mtbc at ixod.org>, Summit Neighborhood
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> What back ground?
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> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Mark T.B. Carroll <mtbc at ixod.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks very much for the background! I'm glad that at least the local
> > authorities are familiar with her, though it's a pity that her illness
> > seems to make her so unhappy. I ran into her on Summit a few minutes ago
> > and she really didn't seem to be making any sense. Still, while she
> > calls people names, I didn't feel physically threatened, and after I
> > listened to her insulting me for a while she seemed to lose interest and
> > strode off, which does so far seem to have been the pattern of
> > encounters I've witnessed. She didn't seem rational enough that I should
> > try to actually engage her in conversation, given how annoyed she
> > already seemed to be, she just seems to yell a bit and move on
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > Mark
> >
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> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:48:21 EDT
> From: PSZ333 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
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> I have seen her on Hope Street several times now - and I have also had her
> as
> a customer. I alerted the police to her once, when I saw that she almost
> got
> hit by a car. Her routine on the street is that she is walking and having
> an
> argument "with someone" from behind, gradually walking into the middle of
> Hope Street. Traffic has stopped for her. She appears to get it out of
> her
> system and then walks back home. The police are aware of her. My friend
> tells me
> she used to baby-sit his kids many, many years ago and she is
> schizophrenic.
> After her parents died, she became careless with her medications. It's a
> shame to witness this.
>
> pat zacks
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> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:38:30 -0400
> From: Moxie <moxie.krasinski at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
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> 2009/3/23 Bresler E <breslerfamily at gmail.com>:
> >
> > She doesn't
> > otherwise bother anyone.? She does NOT seem to be aggressive or even
> > particularly upset, only sounds like she feels she has something urgent
> to
> > tell us, but what that is - is not clear to me.? (I've never heard any
> > specific insults or comments directed at me.) Then she goes on her way.
>
> I would respectfully disagree that she doesn't bother anyone. She
> approached me as I got out of my car today and quite literally scared
> the hell out of me, in addition to raining personal slurs on my head
> until I could get away. The only urgent thing she needed to tell me
> was that I was a fat bitch....over and over again.
>
> Dealing with mental illness in my own family, I understand it. But it
> does make me less happy to have to go outside if I know she's about.
> And I really don't like the idea of her approaching my children.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gardner and Company <gardnerandcompany at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Message-ID: <618718.22356.qm at web84103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> What will happen is that either she will be harmed or taken away unless
> someone helps.? Maybe someone needs to intervene..? Sounds like she needs
> help.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Moxie <moxie.krasinski at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Moxie <moxie.krasinski at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Lady who shouts at strangers
> To: "Summit Neighborhood" <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 5:38 PM
>
> 2009/3/23 Bresler E <breslerfamily at gmail.com>:
> >
> > She doesn't
> > otherwise bother anyone.? She does NOT seem to be aggressive or even
> > particularly upset, only sounds like she feels she has something urgent
> to
> > tell us, but what that is - is not clear to me.? (I've never heard
> any
> > specific insults or comments directed at me.) Then she goes on her way.
>
> I would respectfully disagree that she doesn't bother anyone. She
> approached me as I got out of my car today and quite literally scared
> the hell out of me, in addition to raining personal slurs on my head
> until I could get away. The only urgent thing she needed to tell me
> was that I was a fat bitch....over and over again.
>
> Dealing with mental illness in my own family, I understand it. But it
> does make me less happy to have to go outside if I know she's about.
> And I really don't like the idea of her approaching my children.
>
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