[Summit] Fwd: Parking again!

Karen Klingon kklingon at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 27 22:02:12 UTC 2010


I'm with Elianna. I grew up in Manhattan and still spend a lot of time  
there. Cars everywhere you look, narrow streets, exhaust fumes, the  
daily parking shuffle/nightmare (especially bad when it snows), noise  
(including car alarms going off at all hours), a general grimness and  
density to the streetscape, and added security worries for any woman  
walking alone at night. No thanks.

Karen
On Jan 27, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Breslers wrote:

> hmmm  I can see why you would feel that way,  but I'll NEVER be for  
> on street parking-
>
> I already lived MORE than enough years with it.  It was such a pain,  
> in so many ways, that it dragged down the quality of daily living in  
> Boston.  Ugh.  Getting tickets while unloading your groceries into  
> your own house because there was no where to park nearby. Dodging  
> those tickets every week.  Then trying to find where to put your  
> car. Having to dry off your guests after they walked 3 blocks in a  
> down pour. Shoveling out a parking space for your car, and having to  
> fight for it or shovel again & again.
> "No onstreet parking" requires landlords to provide parking, and  
> improves everyone's quality of life.
>
> That's my opinion.
>
> Elianna
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Andrew Nosal <andy at mapcenter.com>  
> wrote:
> Thank you Coryndon, for the links to Rational Analysis.
>
> Does anyone else see the great, neighborly breakthrough possible  
> here?  There can be a new on-street parking scheme that does not  
> inconvenience residents and also allows hospital employees' cars to  
> occupy otherwise idle pavement - in exchange for replacing the  
> horrible parking lots with good stuff like houses or shops!  ( Just  
> no "garage front" houses please)
>
>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Coryndon Luxmoore wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew you might enjoy this report commissioned by San Francisco MTA
>>>
>>> http://sf.streetsblog.org/wp-content/upload1/SFMTAPresentationonExtendingParkingMeterHours101309.pdf
>>> http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/13/mta-releases-parking-meter-study-that-proposes-extending-hours/
>>> http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/15/donald-shoup-calls-san-francisco-parking-meter-study-pathbreaking/
>>>
>>> As a resident nearby the hospital I agree that there is an over  
>>> compensation by the meter maids and the hospital to prevent  
>>> employees parking on the street but as long as they insist on the  
>>> horrible parking lots it is appropriate. The biggest issue as I  
>>> see it is the really poorly maintained parking signage in the area  
>>> which does not make the rules clear.
>>>
>>> --C
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Coryndon Luxmoore
>>> Interaction Designer
>>>
>>> coryndon (at) luxmoore (dot) com
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Andrew Nosal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Raising some money through parking enforcement is a fine idea.   
>>>> The disgrace is how pointless and victimless are the most  
>>>> ruthlessly enforced parking regulations: the overnight ban, and  
>>>> time limits on out of the way blocks.  I would like to see more  
>>>> enforcement of laws that actually impact safety and well being,  
>>>> like speeding, red light running and failure to yield.
>>>>
>>>> There has been an absurd over-reaction to the problem of  ** OMG  
>>>> hospital employees are parking all day.* *  Why is it best that  
>>>> hundreds of perfectly good curbside spaces remain vacant, all  
>>>> day, every day, while the hospital is compelled to maintain big  
>>>> ugly parking lots that could be developed as housing or other  
>>>> useful things?  If we want residents to be priveleged to park on  
>>>> their own streets, give them permit stickers and enough reserved  
>>>> space on every block.  The rest of the spaces could then be used  
>>>> by whoever.  The no-turnover problem that all-day parkers create  
>>>> in busy commercial areas and adjacent to the hospital itself is  
>>>> best solved by meters.
>>>>
>>>> Parking policies today are not the result of any systematic  
>>>> thinking or rational analysis.  However, as long as the city is  
>>>> collecting lots of $, and the loudest complainers in the  
>>>> neighborhoods are relatively quiet, the policies can be  
>>>> considered a big success!
>>>>
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>>
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