[Summit] Fwd from Sam Zurier: Blackstone Blvd traffic, Schools, Firefighters

Emlyn Addison noisyblocks at gmail.com
Mon Dec 14 16:34:04 CST 2015


Traffic calming measures are, by far, needed more on Main and Hope streets
than Blackstone. But, if I had to guess, Old Money speaks louder?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
wrote:

>
> Clearly very few of you ever try to cross N main st.  on foot.  to a
> pedestrian the excessive speed is dangerous.  greg
>
> From: Jeffrey Cavanaugh <jeff at cavanaugh.org>
> Date: Monday, December 14, 2015 at 4:07 PM
> To: Robin Everett-McGuirl <ripper.mcguirl at gmail.com>, Robert Mathiesen <
> rmath13 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Summit Neighborhood <Summit at sna.providence.ri.us>
> Subject: Re: [Summit] Fwd from Sam Zurier: Blackstone Blvd traffic,
> Schools, Firefighters
>
> Interesting perspectives.
>
> I've often felt it's crazy that my side street, North Main and Blackstone
> all have the same speed limit! Some of these places should probably be 20,
> others, like North Main, Blackstone, could arguably be 30, except that we
> live in a world of poor enforcement and if you don't fit certain profiles,
> you are unlikely to get pulled over unless going in excess of 10-15 over
> the limit and/or tailgating or driving erratically or aggressively.  So we
> set limits lower and add stop signs, which only work for the law abiding.
>
> Part of me loves the speed table - it doesn't discriminate and boy does it
> work.  I just LAUGH when someone aggressively tailgates me on Smith st. by
> the State House. I like to pull out of their way so they can hit that thing
> as fast as they want! When combined with a raised crosswalk and judiciously
> applied, tables can be a good thing. Neck downs can also be done to
> accommodate bike lanes without them having to rejoin the traffic lane. So
> those can work too.
>
> And, of course, the technology exists to force every car to obey every
> speed limit. The cars all have computers that monitor speed, and GPS, so
> they could have "smart" speed governors.  It could even be sold as a
> "feature" to help drivers qualify for cheaper insurance or to avoid tickets.
>
> I'm not sure here is a huge speed issue on Blackstone (except the odd nut
> case late at night - but does anything work against them?), but, there are
> lots of pedestrians in nice weather, so there could be a distracted driving
> issue. Speed humps will help with that too!
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:30 PM Robin Everett-McGuirl <
> ripper.mcguirl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Blackstone is so constantly destroyed by potholes and ripped up by snow
>> plows, I don't see the need for speedbumps. I'm constantly behind people
>> going insanely slow on Blackstone as it is. Furthermore, it's one of the
>> only ways to get around the Eastside without hitting 800 stop signs and/or
>> lights, so it would make me crazy if we further hampered traffic in the
>> city by adding these speedbumps. Not to mention that the traffic from the
>> lights at Angel and Waterman streets already backs way up to Blackstone.
>> But, I guess if there are people here who want it to be impossible to go
>> over 25, ever, I don't really think we're going to agree on this.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Robert Mathiesen <rmath13 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hardly anyone goes 25mph anywhere in the city, even though that is the
>>> speed limit unless otherwise posted.  On Blackstone and Hope and North Main
>>> I try never to go faster than 25mph, but I will pull over once I get an
>>> impatient tail several cars long, so they can pass me at their preferred
>>> speed.  It's not my job to make others obey the speed limit.
>>>
>>> That said, in theory I'd love to see somehting done to make it
>>> physically impossible for any private car ever to go faster than 25mph
>>> anywhere in the city.  But I don't know what might accomplish that.  (What
>>> would happen if every intersection anywhere in the city were made into a
>>> 4-way stop?  I suspect even that wouldn't work.)
>>>
>>> Bob M
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Cagen <cagenlaw at acagen.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if this is a solution in search of a problem. In any
>>>> event, I add my voice to the chorus of opposition to speed bumps.
>>>> Andy Cagen
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhonemps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Christopher Buecheler <
>>>> cwbuecheler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a big problem with accidents on Blackstone as it is now?
>>>>
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