[Summit] Overnight parking (was Re: SNA Meeting addressing area crime, Crime Watch, & Overnight Parking)

Jeffrey Cavanaugh jeff at cavanaugh.org
Mon Aug 25 14:01:41 CDT 2014


Isn't the parking supposed to be enforced by a service that scans license
plates?  So, shouldn't cars that don't belong get logged for ticketing?


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Francisco <pacolovera at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Nate,
>
> You are correct.  The parking ban would not deter crime during the
> daylight hours or through the time that parking was allowed (up to 1 am?)
> What I heard directly from a former police chief in Providence is that as a
> patrol man if you see a car parked in front of someone's house at late
> hours you can easily assume that the car either does not belong to the
> neigborhood (best case visitor or forgeful homeowner) and write down the
> plate.  If a crime in the area is committed, you have at least one lead.
> With many cars on the street it becomes more labor intensive to do a scope
> of all the streets and check every single car wihtou a sticker every day.
> I totally concur with you, the parking ban does not help to deter crime
> during the day when most people are at work
>
> Also, as neighbors, I agree with you, we can tell when there is a new car
> in the neigborhood.  Which again, requires eyes on the street.  These may
> not happen when people are not necessarily looking (at work or at night)
> If it wasn't for my neighbor who feeds her baby at 4 am, we would have no
> lead whatsoever on the recent break ins.
>
> As a recent victim of one of these crimes, I am oversensitive to cars
> (especially unfamiliar ones) on my street.
>
> Conclusion, removing the parking ban has its pros and cons.  More
> effective policing at night is one of the cons.  We, as neighbors, decide
> the weigh in the pros and cons and request a solution (re: parking ban) on
> each block.  After all, we are in a democratic society.
>
> Francisco J. Lovera
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:24:44 -0400
> From: nate at houseofnate.net
> To: summit at sna.providence.ri.us
> Subject: [Summit] Overnight parking (was Re: SNA Meeting addressing area
> crime, Crime Watch, & Overnight Parking)
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> On 08/24/2014 02:40 PM, Dean W wrote:
>
> I do believe that the Overnight Parking program does make it easier to
> commit crime in the neighborhood and make it more difficult to recognize
> crime in progress.  Everyone should know that this program is currently in
> a phase of being an "indefinite pilot program".  It has NOT been passed by
> City Council, and it is a pet program of Mayor Taveras, existing because of
> his Executive Order.  I say this not as a representative of SNA, but as a
> resident who deeply disagrees with the Overnight Parking program and how it
> has come to be implemented in Providence.  Crime is just one element of why
> this is a bad program for Providence's future, but since we are on that
> topic, I mention it.
>
>
> As a fellow resident (who has been a victim of theft, and otherwise isn't
> a fan of such shenanigans), I'm curious about the claim that overnight
> parking makes it "more difficult to recognize crime in progress". This
> doesn't jibe with my personal observations:
>
>
>    1. Overnight parking bans don't prevent your law-abiding friends and
>    neighbors from parking on the street during the day or evening. You know,
>    for when a friend comes over for dinner, or you have a bunch of
>    snowboarding gear you want to move in or out of your front closet.
>     2. After living in a place for awhile, it becomes obvious which
>    vehicles are regularly parked on your block. A new vehicle does stand out.
>     3. It's easy to tell if a parked car belongs to a resident or not ---
>    just look at the upper left corner of the rear window for a resident
>    parking sticker. (I suppose this could be faked, but I don't think we're
>    talking about that level of sophistication here.)
>
> Not interested in starting a flame war (though those can be fun). Just
> curious about what I'm missing.
>
> nate
>
>
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